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  • Newman
    Behind the Iron Curtain
    • Friday, November 1, 2013
    • 25814

    #1

    Burt Bacharach

    Rest in peace.

    Burt Bacharach dead: Dionne Warwick, Aretha Franklin composer was 94 (usatoday.com)​

    His stuff wasn't my style, but his oeuvre is simply awesome, and this obit is a good refresher.

    I always considered his songs over-produced, sort of John Williams in the Top 40. (Yes, an anachronistic image). I leaned toward the raw edges of the Rolling Stones, my favorite Rock & Roll band, and the amazing economy of sound in Prince's "Kiss." Bacharach used a lot more harmonies and sectional variety than almost anyone else.

    He certainly followed his own muse.

    “I knew I was doing things different but at the same time, I was doing things that were very natural for me,” he told PopEntertainment.com in 2006. “I wasn’t trying to break any rules. But I wrote the way I heard things.”
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  • phillygirl
    Not superior, just kind
    • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
    • 19840

    #2
    His talent truly was awesome. I’m feeling my age when I see his age at death. His songs were the background to my childhood in many ways.
    Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
    Robert Southwell, S.J.

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    • Celeste Chalfonte
      apostate
      • Saturday, October 5, 2013
      • 27897

      #3
      I didn't know he wrote The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. I hadn't thought about Gene Pitney in decades.

      Most of Bacharach's stuff was kind of saccharine. The ones I do like (mainly for the memories they call up) were, in fact, sung by Gene Pitney.

      And I kind of thought Bacharach was already dead. But RIP anyway. He was part of that era, exemplified part of it.

      "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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      • scott
        Go-to Guru
        • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
        • 15799

        #4
        He was someone I never appreciated until I was 30. Not my thing, but wow was he talented!
        "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
        -John Locke

        "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
        -Newman

        "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
        -Newman

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        • Newman
          Behind the Iron Curtain
          • Friday, November 1, 2013
          • 25814

          #5
          I suppose one could post dozens of examples. This one from 1964 is quintessential Bacharach to me. Remember that the top hits of that year included the Beatles "I want to hold your hand," and Roy Orbison "Pretty Woman." ("Anyone who had a heart" is way down at number 72, though it did make the top ten at some point.)

          But the shifting meter (in a pop song!), the transposed sections, the lush orchestration, all to me are fat, juicy Bacharach fingerprints.

          • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
          • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
          • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
          • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
          • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
          • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
          • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
          • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
          • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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          • scott
            Go-to Guru
            • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
            • 15799

            #6
            One of the dozens of "deathbed" conversations I had with Mom when she was in the ICU was a nice exploration into music and how I thought it was "so different" when I was young and "now" I get it, that there are shared hooks, rhythms, and themes. "So why did Lawrence Welk suck so much and why did you try to force me to watch it?"

            "Exposure.... I wanted you to be exposed to it."

            Smart lady. Mom loved Burt. She played bingo and blackjack with him in Vegas a few times. She said because he could never forget a woman nicknamed "Beaver" which might be true, but Mom was also smokin'
            "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
            -John Locke

            "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
            -Newman

            "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
            -Newman

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            • Michele
              Senior Member
              • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
              • 13964

              #7
              Originally posted by Newman View Post
              I suppose one could post dozens of examples. This one from 1964 is quintessential Bacharach to me. Remember that the top hits of that year included the Beatles "I want to hold your hand," and Roy Orbison "Pretty Woman." ("Anyone who had a heart" is way down at number 72, though it did make the top ten at some point.)

              But the shifting meter (in a pop song!), the transposed sections, the lush orchestration, all to me are fat, juicy Bacharach fingerprints.

              They were quite the team.
              May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
              Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
              And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
              may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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              • phillygirl
                Not superior, just kind
                • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                • 19840

                #8
                Originally posted by scott View Post
                One of the dozens of "deathbed" conversations I had with Mom when she was in the ICU was a nice exploration into music and how I thought it was "so different" when I was young and "now" I get it, that there are shared hooks, rhythms, and themes. "So why did Lawrence Welk suck so much and why did you try to force me to watch it?"

                "Exposure.... I wanted you to be exposed to it."

                Smart lady. Mom loved Burt. She played bingo and blackjack with him in Vegas a few times. She said because he could never forget a woman nicknamed "Beaver" which might be true, but Mom was also smokin'
                So cool. I feel like our moms would have really gotten on well. My mother also loved Burt. Although I am not someone who is into music, my mother was. Some of my fondest childhood memories are playing records on that giant stereo console in the living room with my mother. One of those times is when she told my sister she had so much rhythm, just like Cher. I asked her "what about me, Mommy"...and she replied "oh, you dance just like Sonny, dear". She wasn't wrong.
                Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
                Robert Southwell, S.J.

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                • Lady Marva
                  Senior Member
                  • Wednesday, June 17, 2015
                  • 13321

                  #9
                  Many many of his tunes will live on and on. RIP.

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                  • scott
                    Go-to Guru
                    • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                    • 15799

                    #10
                    Originally posted by phillygirl View Post

                    So cool. I feel like our moms would have really gotten on well. My mother also loved Burt. Although I am not someone who is into music, my mother was. Some of my fondest childhood memories are playing records on that giant stereo console in the living room with my mother. One of those times is when she told my sister she had so much rhythm, just like Cher. I asked her "what about me, Mommy"...and she replied "oh, you dance just like Sonny, dear". She wasn't wrong.
                    Yes, our moms would have loved each other. Both nurses, smarter than the doctors they worked for, funny, and simply loved to have a good time.
                    "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                    -John Locke

                    "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                    -Newman

                    "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
                    -Newman

                    Comment

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