Trump officials open border to 15,000 more foreign workers

[Norm dePlume]

Trump officials open border to 15,000 more foreign workers

The Department of Homeland Security on Monday announced a one-time increase of 15,000 additional visas for low-wage seasonal workers for the remainder of this fiscal year, a seeming about-face from President Trump's "Hire American" rhetoric, following heavy lobbying from fisheries, hospitality and other industries that rely on temporary foreign workers.

The increase represents a 45 percent bump from the number of H-2B visas normally issued for the second half of the fiscal year, said senior Homeland Security officials in a call with reporters.

The visas are for workers taking temporary jobs in the seafood, tourism, landscaping, construction and other seasonal industries — but not farm laborers.

Hey, maybe they're here to build a wall.

[Billy Jingo]

Hey, maybe they're here to build a wall.

There has been some Media level lobbying on this in our area. I would have to look for it but newspaper and NPR stories bemoaning the dearth of skilled construction workers necessary to keep up with demand in the Metroplex. One figure (top of the head) tossed around was it cost an extra 4K and up to 2 months on new home construction.

[Lady Marva]

Risky thing to do. No way to make them go back home.

[Tom Servo]

Risky thing to do. No way to make them go back home.

I would wager that most visa holders voluntarily go home if they don't seek an extension because most people are generally law-abiding. Of course, it's easier to lump them all together as criminals before they've even had a chance to break any laws.

[Lady Marva]

I would wager that most visa holders voluntarily go home if they don't seek an extension because most people are generally law-abiding. Of course, it's easier to lump them all together as criminals before they've even had a chance to break any laws.

Depends on who they are. Sorry. Disagree. There's a lot of illegals here whom didn't go back home. Including Obama's aunt. Remember her? If "most" people were law-abiding we wouldn't have illegals in the first place.

[Billy Jingo]

I would wager that most visa holders voluntarily go home if they don't seek an extension because most people are generally law-abiding. Of course, it's easier to lump them all together as criminals before they've even had a chance to break any laws.

What laws are broken by overstaying your visa?

[80zephyr]

What laws are broken by overstaying your visa?

If there is no law against it, there should be.

Mark

[Lady Marva]

What laws are broken by overstaying your visa?

jeez.........

[Tom Servo]

Depends on who they are. Sorry. Disagree. There's a lot of illegals here whom didn't go back home. Including Obama's aunt. Remember her? If "most" people were law-abiding we wouldn't have illegals in the first place.

So we went from lawful visa holders to illegal. Why are you moving the goal posts?

What laws are broken by overstaying your visa?

It's not? That's news to me. I was just going on the assumption that when visas expire it's adios unless one seeks an extension,

[Adam]

What laws are broken by overstaying your visa?

The Immigration and Naturalization Act.

[Lady Marva]

So we went from lawful visa holders to illegal. Why are you moving the goal posts?

Jeeeezz............ overstaying a visa makes a person illegal. Which a person choses to do.

[Billy Jingo]

The Immigration and Naturalization Act.

Okay, what crime was committed? Or, are you not making the distinction between civil and criminal aspects of law? I may be wrong but my understanding is that being a removable alien is not a felony.

[Adam]

Okay, what crime was committed? Or, are you not making the distinction between civil and criminal aspects of law? I may be wrong but my understanding is that being a removable alien is not a felony.

Well, that's a bit different. You asked what law was being violated, rather than what penalties are involved.

The act of being a removable alien may or may not be a felony, depending upon the situation. Most of the time, the penalty is in the civil realm of deportation and a bar to entry for some period of time. In certain circumstances, such as being a removable alien after a lawful order of removal has been ordered, it is a felony. Over-staying a visa, though, is pretty much universally at least a misdemeanor event of perjury, since one declares under threat of perjury that one will adhere to visa requirements on the I-94 form. Now, there's a pretty significant amount of leeway given there: for example, someone on a student visa who ceases their education for whatever reason is granted at least 60 days to get out of the country. Someone who overstays a tourist visa for a week because their flight is cancelled is typically not going to be in any trouble, as ICE has pretty broad authority to waive any penalty for situations outside of someone's control.

But that's not really the concern here. We're not talking about someone who hangs around for an extra week to go to DisneyWorld. Visa overstays are really about people who misrepresent their reason for coming to the country in the first place: come in as a tourist and stay as a laborer, usually.

[Lady Marva]

Okay, what crime was committed? Or, are you not making the distinction between civil and criminal aspects of law? I may be wrong but my understanding is that being a removable alien is not a felony.

What difference does it make. The person overstaying a visa is committing a crime. Period.

[Djharkavy]

What difference does it make. The person overstaying a visa is committing a crime. Period.

Not in most cases.
Generally, it is a civil violation resulting in fines and/or deportation.

Only in specific cases, such as illegally re-entering the country is it a crime

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