Stand there and get shot!

[Newman]

What sort of Orwellian world are we in?

Navy to Charge Officer Who Fired on Islamist During Chattanooga Terror Attack

A report at The Navy Times in July confirmed that one of the Marines shot during the Chattanooga terrorist attack exchanged fire with the terrorist. Navy Lt. Cmdr Timothy White also shot back at the terrorist.

But rather than being celebrated as a hero, Lt. Commander White may be charged for discharging a firearm on federal property.

In my humble opinion, as humble as I can put it, whoever made the decision to file charges here needs a new career immediately following his (or her) abject apology for being an asshole in uniform.

[Celeste Chalfonte]

IF the information at the link is an accurate portrayal of the whole story, I agree that this seems to be a miscarriage of justice. The link leads to what is obviously an opinion piece written by someone with a political agenda. If anyone comes across an actual news story with reportage of all the facts, I'd be very interested to read it.

[Tom Servo]

MAY be charged, says the article. TO be charged, says the headline. Sounds like they're trying to sensationalize something that hasn't even happened yet.

Sent from my XT1254 using Tapatalk

[Newman]

MAY be charged, says the article. TO be charged, says the headline. Sounds like they're trying to sensationalize something that hasn't even happened yet.

Could be.

The link is based on Allen West:

Ladies and gents, resulting from the text message I received yesterday, I can confirm that the United States Navy is bringing charges against Lt. Cmdr Timothy White for illegally discharging a firearm on federal property.

The text message asked if it would be possible for Lt.Cmdr White to reach out to me. To wit[ch] I replied, affirmative.

I'd guess Lt.Cmdr White "reached out" expecting to get a little publicity to his plight, and it would be nice if this little publicity triggers a quit rethinking of this idea, and everyone can put on their best Sgt. Schultz impersonation.

I'll settle for that.

[scott]

I heard through back channels that an investigation with charges pending is being opened. All that means is that it's an investigation into possible violations of regulations specifically to see if charges need to be brought.

Technically it's the same distinction as all investigations with charges pending that result in punishment, but that's it.

LTC West is grandstanding as usual.

[Billy Jingo]

On a side note, the Gun Cult assholes seemed to have stopped their political protest they had going a few blocks from my house. Which is cool.

I moved. The burbs. Tea Party central. Recruiting office. Connect the dots.

[Celeste Chalfonte]

I heard through back channels that an investigation with charges pending is being opened. All that means is that it's an investigation into possible violations of regulations specifically to see if charges need to be brought.

Technically it's the same distinction as all investigations with charges pending that result in punishment, but that's it.

LTC West is grandstanding as usual.

You know the author of the article?

[scott]

You know the author of the article?

The source of the article is a statement by Allen West, former Congressman and retired LTC.

[scott]

On a side note, the Gun Cult assholes seemed to have stopped their political protest they had going a few blocks from my house. Which is cool.

I moved. The burbs. Tea Party central. Recruiting office. Connect the dots.

Urban life wasn't "urbane" enough but you're better than all of your new neighbors?

[Celeste Chalfonte]

Urban life wasn't "urbane" enough but you're better than all of your new neighbors?

You could figure out what that meant? I'm impressed. I thought it was the usual word salad.

[scott]

You could figure out what that meant? I'm impressed. I thought it was the usual word salad.

I speak Bok. I don't have to lie -erm "satire" about him online, I can just be the same guy here as I am in real life. And that sucks, Bok is a great guy in real life. Maybe this is his alter ego, the part that he suppresses in meatspace or maybe he just likes pissing people off but doesn't enjoy it as much when someone can punch him. Maybe he's congenial in real life because that's what he needs to do to get by and this is his true persona. People are complicated.

But make no mistake, Billy Jingo the persona here and Bok the guy in real life are conflicted that he's been forced to move from his "urban pioneer" hostel near the hookers to "Tea Party Central." Less crime, more space, and a happier wife can sometimes conflict with living the dream of being a Progressive. Or maybe he got a good deal on a new house and the economics (damn Capitalist) just worked to cash out of the old shitbarn he bought and built into a nice place.

I think he's uncomfortable with learning that he's more like those he hates than he previously thought.

[Frostbit]

I speak Bok. I don't have to lie -erm "satire" about him online, I can just be the same guy here as I am in real life. And that sucks, Bok is a great guy in real life. Maybe this is his alter ego, the part that he suppresses in meatspace or maybe he just likes pissing people off but doesn't enjoy it as much when someone can punch him. Maybe he's congenial in real life because that's what he needs to do to get by and this is his true persona. People are complicated.

But make no mistake, Billy Jingo the persona here and Bok the guy in real life are conflicted that he's been forced to move from his "urban pioneer" hostel near the hookers to "Tea Party Central." Less crime, more space, and a happier wife can sometimes conflict with living the dream of being a Progressive. Or maybe he got a good deal on a new house and the economics (damn Capitalist) just worked to cash out of the old shitbarn he bought and built into a nice place.

I think he's uncomfortable with learning that he's more like those he hates than he previously thought.

Dude!! I hope I never piss you off. If I were Bok I would have already offed myself.

Side note...."I can just be the same guy here as I am in real life." I know as do you.

[Celeste Chalfonte]

I speak Bok. I don't have to lie -erm "satire" about him online, I can just be the same guy here as I am in real life. And that sucks, Bok is a great guy in real life. Maybe this is his alter ego, the part that he suppresses in meatspace or maybe he just likes pissing people off but doesn't enjoy it as much when someone can punch him. Maybe he's congenial in real life because that's what he needs to do to get by and this is his true persona. People are complicated.

But make no mistake, Billy Jingo the persona here and Bok the guy in real life are conflicted that he's been forced to move from his "urban pioneer" hostel near the hookers to "Tea Party Central." Less crime, more space, and a happier wife can sometimes conflict with living the dream of being a Progressive. Or maybe he got a good deal on a new house and the economics (damn Capitalist) just worked to cash out of the old shitbarn he bought and built into a nice place.

I think he's uncomfortable with learning that he's more like those he hates than he previously thought.

Never met him in person, but I liked him back a few years. sometimes snarky but lucid and funny. The BJ persona just gets on my last nerve, even when I agree with him...if I can figure out whether I do or not.

[Gingersnap]

I speak Bok. I don't have to lie -erm "satire" about him online, I can just be the same guy here as I am in real life. And that sucks, Bok is a great guy in real life. Maybe this is his alter ego, the part that he suppresses in meatspace or maybe he just likes pissing people off but doesn't enjoy it as much when someone can punch him. Maybe he's congenial in real life because that's what he needs to do to get by and this is his true persona. People are complicated.

But make no mistake, Billy Jingo the persona here and Bok the guy in real life are conflicted that he's been forced to move from his "urban pioneer" hostel near the hookers to "Tea Party Central." Less crime, more space, and a happier wife can sometimes conflict with living the dream of being a Progressive. Or maybe he got a good deal on a new house and the economics (damn Capitalist) just worked to cash out of the old shitbarn he bought and built into a nice place.

I think he's uncomfortable with learning that he's more like those he hates than he previously thought.

Nah, he's jerk who pets his friends and reviles everybody else.

I'm tired of hearing that he's a "great guy" in person but trolls others.

Here's the deal: I'm the same no matter where you meet me. In person, on the phone, online, email, or whatever. If you think I'm stupid or horrifying online, I will be that same thing in person. If you think I'm smart or a bully, I will be that same person in real life.

I'm the same everywhere I go. Not because I'm too dumb, not because I fear backing up my opinions, and not because somebody might say something bad about me (on or offline); I'm the same because I'm not a coward.

Nobody is going to say about me, "She's a real peach in real life. She's devoted her church. loves her husband, spends X volunteering, and tirelessly work for Y but she will make you feel like an idiot at any opportunity.

There's nothing "nice" about being ugly in one situation and beautiful in another.

[scott]

Nah, he's jerk who pets his friends and reviles everybody else.

I'm tired of hearing that he's a "great guy" in person but trolls others.

Here's the deal: I'm the same no matter where you meet me. In person, on the phone, online, email, or whatever. If you think I'm stupid or horrifying online, I will be that same thing in person. If you think I'm smart or a bully, I will be that same person in real life.

I'm the same everywhere I go. Not because I'm too dumb, not because I fear backing up my opinions, and not because somebody might say something bad about me (on or offline); I'm the same because I'm not a coward.

Nobody is going to say about me, "She's a real peach in real life. She's devoted her church. loves her husband, spends X volunteering, and tirelessly work for Y but she will make you feel like an idiot at any opportunity.

There's nothing "nice" about being ugly in one situation and beautiful in another.

It's quite common. I've been to quite a few gatherings over the years and almost all the assholes that showed up were much nicer in person. Some work out their angst online, some are awkward in person and have to be nice to get anyone to give them attention but get to the the alpha dog online, some are very meek and insecure in person (usually because their lives are fucking trainwrecks) and lash out online. Some people just like to fight but don't have the self-confidence to do it when the repercussions are real so they fight online.