Cohen's plea deal is prosecutor's attempt to set up Trump

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  • 80zephyr
    Senior Member
    • Saturday, January 3, 2015
    • 19074

    #1

    Cohen's plea deal is prosecutor's attempt to set up Trump

    No shit. The aim of this "investigation" is to get Trump. He could be 100% innocent of any wrongdoing, and they would still want him gone because he is not one of them.

    From the article:
    With Cohen pleading guilty, there will be no test of soundness of the prosecution theories here, and it is yet another example of the double standards of justice of one investigation that gave Clinton aides and principals every benefit of the doubt and another investigation that targeted Trump people until they found unrelated crimes to use as leverage. Prosecutors thought nothing of using the Logan Act against former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn, but they are using obscure and unsettled elements of campaign finance law against Trump lawyer Cohen to manufacture crimes in what is a naked attempt to take Trump down and defeat democracy.

    Trump should do a better job of picking aides who pay their taxes, but he is not responsible for their financial problems and crimes. These investigations, essentially based on an opposition dossier, were never anything other than an attempt to push into a corner as many Trump aides and family members as possible and shake them down until they could get close enough to Trump to try to take him down.

    That is why so many of his aides, lawyers, and actions in the campaign and in the White House have undergone hour by hour scrutiny to find anything that could be colored into a crime, leaving far behind the original Russia collusion theory as the fake pretext it was. Paying for nondisclosure agreements for perfectly legal activities is not a crime, not a campaign contribution as commonly understood or ruled upon by the Federal Election Commission. Squeezing guilty pleas out of vulnerable witnesses does nothing to change those facts.
    http://thehill.com/opinion/white-hou...o-set-up-trump


    Mark
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  • Norm dePlume
    Err foil
    • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
    • 14904

    #2
    Republican evolution in action.

    2009: No one is above the law

    2018: The law can't be trusted
    Enjoy.

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    • 80zephyr
      Senior Member
      • Saturday, January 3, 2015
      • 19074

      #3
      Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
      Republican evolution in action.

      2009: No one is above the law

      2018: The law can't be trusted
      You are correct. The conservatives used to trust the law. Now from what I have seen, I have no reason to anymore.

      Mark
      Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

      "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

      Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

      Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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      • Norm dePlume
        Err foil
        • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
        • 14904

        #4
        Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
        You are correct. The conservatives used to trust the law. Now from what I have seen, I have no reason to anymore.

        Mark
        Because now you have Dear Leader.
        Enjoy.

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        • 80zephyr
          Senior Member
          • Saturday, January 3, 2015
          • 19074

          #5
          Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
          Because now you have Dear Leader.
          Trump has nothing to do with unequal application of the law. And if you don't recognize that is happening, you have your blinders on too tight.

          Mark
          Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

          "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

          Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

          Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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          • Norm dePlume
            Err foil
            • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
            • 14904

            #6
            Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
            Trump has nothing to do with unequal application of the law. And if you don't recognize that is happening, you have your blinders on too tight.

            Mark
            How many other people are you placing above the law? Is Duncan Hunter above the law, too? Or is it just Trump?
            Enjoy.

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            • 80zephyr
              Senior Member
              • Saturday, January 3, 2015
              • 19074

              #7
              Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
              How many other people are you placing above the law? Is Duncan Hunter above the law, too? Or is it just Trump?
              If Trump is guilty, so is Hillary. Are you placing her above the law?

              Mark
              Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

              "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

              Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

              Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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              • Norm dePlume
                Err foil
                • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
                • 14904

                #8
                Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
                If Trump is guilty, so is Hillary. Are you placing her above the law?

                Mark
                No. She's not above the law. She's just innocent.



                And once again, you didn't answer the questions.

                "Trump's got nothing to do with it. It's just that he's the only one I'm favoring over the U.S. justice system."
                Last edited by Norm dePlume; Thursday, August 23, 2018, 12:21 PM.
                Enjoy.

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                • 80zephyr
                  Senior Member
                  • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                  • 19074

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                  No. She's not above the law. She's just innocent.



                  And once again, you didn't answer the questions.

                  "Trump's got nothing to do with it. It's just that he's the only one I'm favoring over the U.S. justice system."
                  If she's innocent, then so is Trump. That is the answer to your question.

                  Mark
                  Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                  "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                  Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                  Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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                  • Norm dePlume
                    Err foil
                    • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
                    • 14904

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
                    If she's innocent, then so is Trump. That is the answer to your question.

                    Mark
                    Her details are different than his details, and details matter. False equivalence. Bullshit argument. Typical Hillary diversion. Cultist behavior on your part.
                    Enjoy.

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                    • 80zephyr
                      Senior Member
                      • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                      • 19074

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                      Her details are different than his details, and details matter. False equivalence. Bullshit argument. Typical Hillary diversion. Cultist behavior on your part.
                      Your right. Her details are much worse. Cultist behavior on your part.

                      Mark
                      Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                      "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                      Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                      Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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                      • Norm dePlume
                        Err foil
                        • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
                        • 14904

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
                        Your right. Her details are much worse. Cultist behavior on your part.

                        Mark
                        I explained what makes Cohen's actions illegal. You have explained nothing. You have only asserted an equivalence, which you are now changing your tune on. Before they were equivalent, now she's worse. You've done nothing remotely like presenting an argument or explaining your position. And now, here, you're just parroting.
                        Enjoy.

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