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  • Newman
    Behind the Iron Curtain
    • Friday, November 1, 2013
    • 25814

    #1

    The Dingells of Detroit

    In one of the nearby threads lies a snide remark about Trump's supposed disrespect for the dead, mean the latest Dingell to leave Congress. I thought this column was a useful review of their dynasty:

    The Hellish Legacy of the Dingell Family

    It finishes:
    . . . After ruling the Committee on Energy and Commerce for 28 years, his own party grew tired of him and unprecedentedly forced him out in 2008. The overthrow of the corrupt "old bull" was the work of none other than Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

    Despite eventually becoming the longest-serving member of the House, it was his fellow Democrats who conspired to take away the privileges of his seniority.

    All that has been forgotten. Dingell’s descriptions of Asians as “little yellow people”, his greed, shameless abuse of power, and arrogance were replaced with empty tributes to his greatness.

    President Trump hasn’t forgotten.

    And so, at a campaign rally in Michigan, Trump recalled a phone call from Rep. Debbie Dingell on her husband’s funeral. “‘He’s looking down, he’d be so thrilled,’” He recalled her saying. “I said, that’s okay, don’t worry about it. Maybe he’s looking up, I don’t know. I don't know. I don’t know. Maybe. Maybe. But let’s assume he’s looking down."

    The locals laughed.

    It was impossible to be from Michigan, to have had a front row seat to the antics of the Dingell clan which practically date back to the birth of mass automobile ownership, and imagine “Big John” in heaven. The image of the old crooked thug with wings and a harp is hopelessly laughable.

    It’s easy to imagine him looking up, but President Trump generously tried to assume otherwise.

    This isn’t the first time that Trump has gotten into trouble for bluntly poking fun at the niceties of a political industry where every crook is “honorable” and everyone pretends to believe it in public.

    Does Speaker Pelosi really believe that Rep. John Dingell was a saint? If she does, why did she conspire to take away his chairmanship, against precedent and the seniority rules of the road?

    Do the New York Times and Bloomberg want to apologize for calling him a bully?

    John Dingell was not a nice guy. Nobody seriously thinks he would have been traumatized by the suggestion that he might not be going to heaven. This was a man who admired a tombstone that read, “He’s done his damnedest.” There’s two ways to read that one. But Dingell never pretended to be a saint. His calling card was hauling pork back to his district and supporting local companies. Like GM.

    Nor did he restrain his rhetoric.

    "I've read enough of that Steele dossier to know just how risky a ‘used Trump hotel mattress’ can truly be," he tweeted in 2018, referencing a smear by the Clinton campaign.

    But Trump reached out to Rep. Debbie Dingell. John got a nice funeral in Washington D.C. And Debbie responded by voting to impeach President Trump for the smears of her fellow Democrats.

    Nor is Debbie a nice person. At one point she inveighed against the, "the 13 white boys–sorry to say it that way–that are going to be doing this in the Senate". So much for civility and collegiality.

    Was Trump really supposed to pretend that this racist, thieving clan is heavenly?

    The D.C. political class throws a fit every time President Trump speaks bluntly about members of the swamp. And Rep. John Dingell wasn’t just part of the swamp. He owned his own mire. In his days ruling the Committee on Energy and Commerce with an iron fist, he would define his jurisdiction by pointing at the planet. These days his ambit, wherever it may be, is a whole lot smaller. And that’s for the best.

    There’s a place for civility and collegiality. And had the Dingell clan sailed off into the sunset, maybe we could all remember them fondly the way we do the Hapsburgs, the Bourbons, and the Gambinos.

    But they’re not going anywhere. That’s what this is all about.

    After John Sr, came John Jr, and after John Jr. came Debbie, and after Debbie will come Christopher, currently a Michigan judge, and on and on, endless generations of Dingells, marching through the House, porking, thieving, and procuring, passing the family legacy of taxpayer money on through the ages until the Republic falls. Should President Trump or anyone else really be afraid to say it’s so?

    America didn’t need a single Dingell in her House. It certainly didn’t need three.

    If the country is to be rid of them, the chattering classes will have to accept hearing that John Dingell Jr. might not, despite his lifetime of good deeds for GM at taxpayer expense, have made it to heaven.
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  • Norm dePlume
    Err foil
    • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
    • 14904

    #2
    Dear leader has been slighted for attacking a dead person, so dig him up and spit on him, followers.

    Yes, yes, we know you didn't care one whit about him prior to a week ago, but now you must work up some real disgust and enmity.
    Enjoy.

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    • Billy Jingo
      I shave with Occam's Razor
      • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
      • 18663

      #3
      Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
      Dear leader has been slighted for attacking a dead person, so dig him up and spit on him, followers.

      Yes, yes, we know you didn't care one whit about him prior to a week ago, but now you must work up some real disgust and enmity.
      Yeah. It’s creepy as fuck sometimes.
      “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

      ~ Omar El Akkad
      ​

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      • Gingersnap
        Resident stylistic consultant
        • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
        • 24058

        #4
        People lose their tiny minds over blunt talk from politicians or they pretend to if the speaker doesn't line up with their own views. It's ridiculous.
        "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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        • 80zephyr
          Senior Member
          • Saturday, January 3, 2015
          • 19074

          #5
          Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
          People lose their tiny minds over blunt talk from politicians or they pretend to if the speaker doesn't line up with their own views. It's ridiculous.
          They like being lied to. Makes them feel all better inside.

          Mark
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          • Norm dePlume
            Err foil
            • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
            • 14904

            #6
            Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
            People lose their tiny minds over blunt talk from politicians or they pretend to if the speaker doesn't line up with their own views. It's ridiculous.
            It's not insanity to point out that it's unusually crass for the POTUS to suggest that a recently departed politician is in hell. But I'm sure scott will be along shortly to criticize you for portraying a political disagreement as mental deficiency. That's a thing he does, except when he's doing it himself.
            Enjoy.

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