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  • Newman
    Behind the Iron Curtain
    • Friday, November 1, 2013
    • 25814

    #1

    Careless email gets ugly

    A woman who applied for a job at a Michigan boutique store outed its boss for calling her 'not that cute' in an accidental emailIt's interesting that this MSN news report can get away with calling the job applicant a "girl." She's a 21-year-old college graduate.

    But whatever. The business owners, husband and wife, and children, are getting soundly thrashed and threatened by the social media gendarmes.
    The email, sent by Chuck DeGrendel, says: "This girl is fresh out of college (Hope College) and not that cute. She applied to the sales model position. Are you sure you want me to interview her?" The email was actually meant for DeGrendel's wife and co-owner, Laura DeGrendel.
    A more decorously worded email would have been fine ("not the look we want," for example), and sending it to the wrong person is a disaster more often than not.

    But should an employer not be able to judge a sales model by appearance?

    Maybe not! What a world we would have, but we could use Ray Charles's famous notion, that he could judge a woman's attractiveness by feeling her wrist. Heck, a casting couch or nepotism also works. When it comes to "the face" of a company, magazine, film or product, plain or downright ugly people are clearly and profoundly under-represented.

    Ironically, for my own two cents, I think "the girl" is plenty cute, according to her video below. I strongly suspect the guy's words "not that cute" meant something else, such as "we already have a candidate I like," or she made a different impression on him when not on her TikTok video. Just speculating.

    • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
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  • Newman
    Behind the Iron Curtain
    • Friday, November 1, 2013
    • 25814

    #2
    I've had struggling actor friends, so have my kids, and a close friend, back in the day, was a very attractive blond "girl" from Minnesota, who did have a modest career. They mostly got turned down for roles, for whatever reason, which more often than not included their looks. I remember my blond friend feeling discouraged at the prospect of getting cast as a grandmother before she was thirty.

    I think they would laugh at this girl's video whine, and probably say something in which "suck it up" would be the most polite phrase.
    • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
    • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
    • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
    • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
    • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
    • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
    • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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    • Celeste Chalfonte
      apostate
      • Saturday, October 5, 2013
      • 27897

      #3
      Originally posted by Newman View Post
      I've had struggling actor friends, so have my kids, and a close friend, back in the day, was a very attractive blond "girl" from Minnesota, who did have a modest career. They mostly got turned down for roles, for whatever reason, which more often than not included their looks. I remember my blond friend feeling discouraged at the prospect of getting cast as a grandmother before she was thirty.

      I think they would laugh at this girl's video whine, and probably say something in which "suck it up" would be the most polite phrase.
      As I read this comment of yours, I heard (from the omnipresent wayback machine in my head) the tune "Dance 10, Looks 3," from A Chorus Line, more commonly (in 2 senses of the word) known as "Tits & Ass."
      "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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      • Newman
        Behind the Iron Curtain
        • Friday, November 1, 2013
        • 25814

        #4
        Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
        As I read this comment of yours, I heard (from the omnipresent wayback machine in my head) the tune "Dance 10, Looks 3," from A Chorus Line, more commonly (in 2 senses of the word) known as "Tits & Ass."




        Love those machines clanking around in my head. (My wayback machine goes waay back, to belts and flywheels.)
        • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
        • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
        • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
        • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
        • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
        • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
        • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
        • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
        • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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        • Novaheart
          Guardian of civilization
          • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
          • 6070

          #5
          "sales model"?

          What kind of store is this?
          The year's at the spring
          And day's at the morn;
          Morning's at seven;
          The hill-side's dew-pearled;
          The lark's on the wing;
          The snail's on the thorn:
          God's in his heaven—
          All's right with the world!

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          • scott
            Go-to Guru
            • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
            • 15799

            #6
            Originally posted by Novaheart View Post
            "sales model"?

            What kind of store is this?
            Online mostly with a warehouse in Michigan. 100K orders in 2019 and 200K orders in 2020. Not a rinky-dink but a small family business. Probably does $3-4 Million in annual revenue, 25 employees.

            Also, I don't think the girl in the Tik Tok is all that cute and not model material.
            Last edited by scott; Sunday, July 11, 2021, 5:02 PM.
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