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  • 80zephyr
    Senior Member
    • Saturday, January 3, 2015
    • 19074

    #1

    Facts Are Facts, No Matter What the Dictators of Davos Say

    The world’s central planners meet, speak, plan and party together.

    Whether they do so in Davos or New York, Paris or Washington D.C.; whether in the name of the WEF or UN or Congress or EU, these central planners share the same goal: to repeat so many seemingly-unrelated lies, so often and so vigorously, that they can get the public to believe that statism is the solution.

    Well, their solution will never be right, because their premises will never be right.

    Facts are facts, no matter what the dictators of Davos may say. For example, a few truths:

    1. Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant.
    2. Man does not control the weather on earth; our climate is controlled by nature and the Sun.
    3. The Constitution is the primary law in America, whether elected officials like it or not, and violations of their oaths of office will someday have to be punished.
    4. Men are men, and women are women. You can’t change from one to another, no matter how many operations and drugs you take.
    5. The 1st and 2nd Amendments are at the core of the American system. The Left hates these amendments most of all because they hate the American system so much.
    6. Today’s Democrat politicians are every bit the slave masters that their pre-Civil War ancestors were, but in fact, are far worse.
    7. Petroleum is one of the greatest materials on God’s green earth. Instead of trying to stamp out its use, we should appreciate it for its incredible versatility and usefulness.
    8. Abortion kills an innocent human being. Capital punishment applied by the criminal justice system kills a guilty human being to avenge victims and protect society. The two situations are not remotely related.
    9. By completely eliminating the power that the several states once held on the federal government, the 17th Amendment turned the American system inside out. By breaking the Constitution’s delicately balanced system, the 17th was in fact a much more devastating revolution even than the Civil War.
    10. Vote fraud in a republic has the same effect – overthrowing the rightful government – that regicide has in a monarchy, and needs to carry the same penalty.
    11. Virtually none of the people pouring over our southern border are really asylum seekers. At best, they’re just run-of-the-mill economic migrants, legal and illegal alike. Many are much worse.
    12. The Left focuses on the fact that sunlight and wind are free, and oil and coal must be bought, to give the false impression that solar and wind power are cheap by comparison. But in truth, the costs of production and delivery is infinitely more relevant with power delivery. And while petroleum, coal, natural gas and nuclear are cheap and efficient to transform into power, the fact is that solar and wind are incredibly inefficient and undependable. Solar and wind are, in fact, the most expensive, and objectively worst, power sources on earth.
    13. Endless deficit spending is a permanent inflation engine, robbing everyone with money of their money’s value at a terrible pace, hurting the poorest the hardest and quickest because they can least afford these deltas.
    14. An avoidable recession, even a short one, may be recoverable for those established in their careers, but can be economically devastating for those just starting out. Being graduated from high school or college into a weak job market can rob youths of their chance to ever get on that ladder, permanently closing the doors that are often only open to the young.
    15. The transgender movement is slowly destroying everything that was designed to support and protect women’s safety and opportunities, from sports to scholarships, from bathrooms to awards shows, from pageants to careers. The trans movement may more noticeably annoy men, but it does infinitely more real, permanent damage to women.
    16. Humans are natural omnivores. A balanced diet of meat, dairy, grains, fruits and vegetables is critical to human health, and is both a cause and result of an affluent society. The current effort to replace real meat with lab-cultivated or plant-based substitutes, and to otherwise meddle with the normal American food balance, is unnatural and destructive.
    17. The primary purpose of government is to protect law-abiding citizens from those who would do them harm. The entire political movement now known as “criminal justice reform” – which seeks to end the imprisonment of proven criminals – is therefore an abandonment of government’s duty to its honest citizens. Robbers, muggers, rapists and murderers – among others – need to be removed from society, through either incarceration or execution. For government to do less is to render government itself an abomination.
    18. Marriage exists to channel the human libido – a societally destructive negative when acted upon outside of marriage – into a necessary and valuable societal positive. The ongoing efforts to destroy traditional marriage over the past half century have already wreaked havoc shown in the schools, the welfare rolls, the churches and the workplace.
    19. Every increase in the minimum wage destroys countless jobs.
    20. The primary goal of trade policy must be to ensure that the nation can be self-sufficient; not to ban the importation of goods outright, but to ensure that imported goods are an optional supplement to domestic supply, never so substantive a source that a wartime cutoff would be economically destructive.
    21. Nothing a president or ambassador agrees to, in these global events like Kyoto or the UN or Davos or the G-20, is in any way binding on the United States unless it is put in treaty form and approved by the U.S. Senate.
    22. When the Supreme Court issued Dobbs, it clarified that abortion policy is in the hands of the states, as per the 10th Amendment. As a result, Joe Biden’s efforts to go around Dobbs with Executive Orders are clearly unconstitutional. In fact, since Executive Orders can only legally be issued in areas where the executive has been specifically empowered by the Constitution and Congressional action, many Executive Orders are illegal by definition.

    This is only the tip of the iceberg; there are many more. But these are 22 of the many key points on which the statists are completely wrong, and the American way is completely right.

    Here’s hoping that Divine Providence helps us survive until Americans are back in charge of all branches of government, and can set America back on the right course.

    https://www.illinoisreview.com/illin...nd%20the%20Sun.
    ​
    Last edited by 80zephyr; Tuesday, January 24, 2023, 4:00 PM.
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    "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

    Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

    Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.
  • Celeste Chalfonte
    apostate
    • Saturday, October 5, 2013
    • 27897

    #2
    Are you planning to credit that to the author, or are you claiming it as your own?
    "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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    • gary m
      Reprobate
      • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
      • 8016

      #3
      If he is honest, he will add the author. If not, he'll be running on Biden's next ticket.
      We are so fucked.

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      • 80zephyr
        Senior Member
        • Saturday, January 3, 2015
        • 19074

        #4
        Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
        Are you planning to credit that to the author, or are you claiming it as your own?
        You Can't see the link??

        Mark
        Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

        "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

        Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

        Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

        Comment

        • Celeste Chalfonte
          apostate
          • Saturday, October 5, 2013
          • 27897

          #5
          Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post

          You Can't see the link??

          Mark
          Can now, there was no link the first time I viewed it. Apparently it was invisible to Gary also.
          "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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          • 80zephyr
            Senior Member
            • Saturday, January 3, 2015
            • 19074

            #6
            Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post

            Can now, there was no link the first time I viewed it. Apparently it was invisible to Gary also.
            I added it about 10 seconds after I posted the link, when I realized I had omitted it.

            Mark
            Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

            "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

            Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

            Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

            Comment

            • Newman
              Behind the Iron Curtain
              • Friday, November 1, 2013
              • 25814

              #7
              Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
              The world’s central planners meet, speak, plan and party together.

              Whether they do so in Davos or New York, Paris or Washington D.C.; whether in the name of the WEF or UN or Congress or EU, these central planners share the same goal: to repeat so many seemingly-unrelated lies, so often and so vigorously, that they can get the public to believe that statism is the solution.

              Well, their solution will never be right, because their premises will never be right.

              Facts are facts, no matter what the dictators of Davos may say. For example, a few truths:

              1. Carbon Dioxide is not a pollutant.
              2. Man does not control the weather on earth; our climate is controlled by nature and the Sun.
              3. The Constitution is the primary law in America, whether elected officials like it or not, and violations of their oaths of office will someday have to be punished.
              4. Men are men, and women are women. You can’t change from one to another, no matter how many operations and drugs you take.
              5. The 1st and 2nd Amendments are at the core of the American system. The Left hates these amendments most of all because they hate the American system so much.
              6. Today’s Democrat politicians are every bit the slave masters that their pre-Civil War ancestors were, but in fact, are far worse.
              7. Petroleum is one of the greatest materials on God’s green earth. Instead of trying to stamp out its use, we should appreciate it for its incredible versatility and usefulness.
              8. Abortion kills an innocent human being. Capital punishment applied by the criminal justice system kills a guilty human being to avenge victims and protect society. The two situations are not remotely related.
              9. By completely eliminating the power that the several states once held on the federal government, the 17th Amendment turned the American system inside out. By breaking the Constitution’s delicately balanced system, the 17th was in fact a much more devastating revolution even than the Civil War.
              10. Vote fraud in a republic has the same effect – overthrowing the rightful government – that regicide has in a monarchy, and needs to carry the same penalty.
              11. Virtually none of the people pouring over our southern border are really asylum seekers. At best, they’re just run-of-the-mill economic migrants, legal and illegal alike. Many are much worse.
              12. The Left focuses on the fact that sunlight and wind are free, and oil and coal must be bought, to give the false impression that solar and wind power are cheap by comparison. But in truth, the costs of production and delivery is infinitely more relevant with power delivery. And while petroleum, coal, natural gas and nuclear are cheap and efficient to transform into power, the fact is that solar and wind are incredibly inefficient and undependable. Solar and wind are, in fact, the most expensive, and objectively worst, power sources on earth.
              13. Endless deficit spending is a permanent inflation engine, robbing everyone with money of their money’s value at a terrible pace, hurting the poorest the hardest and quickest because they can least afford these deltas.
              14. An avoidable recession, even a short one, may be recoverable for those established in their careers, but can be economically devastating for those just starting out. Being graduated from high school or college into a weak job market can rob youths of their chance to ever get on that ladder, permanently closing the doors that are often only open to the young.
              15. The transgender movement is slowly destroying everything that was designed to support and protect women’s safety and opportunities, from sports to scholarships, from bathrooms to awards shows, from pageants to careers. The trans movement may more noticeably annoy men, but it does infinitely more real, permanent damage to women.
              16. Humans are natural omnivores. A balanced diet of meat, dairy, grains, fruits and vegetables is critical to human health, and is both a cause and result of an affluent society. The current effort to replace real meat with lab-cultivated or plant-based substitutes, and to otherwise meddle with the normal American food balance, is unnatural and destructive.
              17. The primary purpose of government is to protect law-abiding citizens from those who would do them harm. The entire political movement now known as “criminal justice reform” – which seeks to end the imprisonment of proven criminals – is therefore an abandonment of government’s duty to its honest citizens. Robbers, muggers, rapists and murderers – among others – need to be removed from society, through either incarceration or execution. For government to do less is to render government itself an abomination.
              18. Marriage exists to channel the human libido – a societally destructive negative when acted upon outside of marriage – into a necessary and valuable societal positive. The ongoing efforts to destroy traditional marriage over the past half century have already wreaked havoc shown in the schools, the welfare rolls, the churches and the workplace.
              19. Every increase in the minimum wage destroys countless jobs.
              20. The primary goal of trade policy must be to ensure that the nation can be self-sufficient; not to ban the importation of goods outright, but to ensure that imported goods are an optional supplement to domestic supply, never so substantive a source that a wartime cutoff would be economically destructive.
              21. Nothing a president or ambassador agrees to, in these global events like Kyoto or the UN or Davos or the G-20, is in any way binding on the United States unless it is put in treaty form and approved by the U.S. Senate.
              22. When the Supreme Court issued Dobbs, it clarified that abortion policy is in the hands of the states, as per the 10th Amendment. As a result, Joe Biden’s efforts to go around Dobbs with Executive Orders are clearly unconstitutional. In fact, since Executive Orders can only legally be issued in areas where the executive has been specifically empowered by the Constitution and Congressional action, many Executive Orders are illegal by definition.

              This is only the tip of the iceberg; there are many more. But these are 22 of the many key points on which the statists are completely wrong, and the American way is completely right.

              Here’s hoping that Divine Providence helps us survive until Americans are back in charge of all branches of government, and can set America back on the right course.

              https://www.illinoisreview.com/illinoisreview/2023/01/facts-are-facts-no-matter-what-the-dictators-of-davos-say.html#:~:text=Facts%20are%20facts%2C%20no%20mat ter%20what%20the%20dictators,climate%20is%20contro lled%20by%20nature%20and%20the%20Sun.
              ​
              I dunno, Mark. I hopscotch through these points reacting depending on what I've stepped in, but in toto it's not a list intended to win friends and influence people.

              It does remind me that the political divide has shanghaied just about every daily concern and has created uncertainty at every point of our social contract.

              I believe this is deliberate, but "deliberate" too grand a description. This radical transformation is too chaotic and particle-ized, so to say. (Thus that lengthy list of countering complaints.)

              I believe "the Left," for simplicity's sake, is inspiring armies of young people anxious to radically transform the world, each hoping to make his or her mark (as most of us once did), so they enthusiastically root out some obscure nook & cranny where they can find offense and dedicate themselves to radically transforming.

              What these radicals have that we didn't have back in the day, is a national political party and a progressive ideology that will not rein in excess.
              • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
              • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
              • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
              • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
              • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
              • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
              • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
              • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
              • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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              • 80zephyr
                Senior Member
                • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                • 19074

                #8
                Originally posted by Newman View Post

                I dunno, Mark. I hopscotch through these points reacting depending on what I've stepped in, but in toto it's not a list intended to win friends and influence people.

                It does remind me that the political divide has shanghaied just about every daily concern and has created uncertainty at every point of our social contract.

                I believe this is deliberate, but "deliberate" too grand a description. This radical transformation is too chaotic and particle-ized, so to say. (Thus that lengthy list of countering complaints.)

                I believe "the Left," for simplicity's sake, is inspiring armies of young people anxious to radically transform the world, each hoping to make his or her mark (as most of us once did), so they enthusiastically root out some obscure nook & cranny where they can find offense and dedicate themselves to radically transforming.

                What these radicals have that we didn't have back in the day, is a national political party and a progressive ideology that will not rein in excess.
                Our enemies aren't trying to either.

                Mark
                Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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                • Celeste Chalfonte
                  apostate
                  • Saturday, October 5, 2013
                  • 27897

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Newman View Post

                  I dunno, Mark. I hopscotch through these points reacting depending on what I've stepped in, but in toto it's not a list intended to win friends and influence people.

                  It does remind me that the political divide has shanghaied just about every daily concern and has created uncertainty at every point of our social contract.

                  I believe this is deliberate, but "deliberate" too grand a description. This radical transformation is too chaotic and particle-ized, so to say. (Thus that lengthy list of countering complaints.)

                  I believe "the Left," for simplicity's sake, is inspiring armies of young people anxious to radically transform the world, each hoping to make his or her mark (as most of us once did), so they enthusiastically root out some obscure nook & cranny where they can find offense and dedicate themselves to radically transforming.

                  What these radicals have that we didn't have back in the day, is a national political party and a progressive ideology that will not rein in excess.
                  More to the point, many of the items are not "facts," as asserted, but opinions or positions. If pared down to actual, objective facts, there might be some basis for discussion. For example, we might all agree that Davos is bullshit. Instead, it's the usual trolling.

                  Never mind.
                  "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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                  • 80zephyr
                    Senior Member
                    • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                    • 19074

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post

                    More to the point, many of the items are not "facts," as asserted, but opinions or positions. If pared down to actual, objective facts, there might be some basis for discussion. For example, we might all agree that Davos is bullshit. Instead, it's the usual trolling.

                    Never mind.
                    Look like facts to me. Which do you object to?

                    Mark
                    Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                    "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                    Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                    Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

                    Comment

                    • Celeste Chalfonte
                      apostate
                      • Saturday, October 5, 2013
                      • 27897

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post

                      Look like facts to me. Which do you object to?
                      I'm sure it does. Your opinions always look like facts to you.
                      "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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                      • 80zephyr
                        Senior Member
                        • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                        • 19074

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post

                        I'm sure it does. Your opinions always look like facts to you.
                        Its pretty funny when I consistently post facts that no one can rebut.

                        Mark.
                        Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                        "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                        Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                        Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

                        Comment

                        • scott
                          Go-to Guru
                          • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                          • 15799

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post

                          Its pretty funny when I consistently post facts that no one can rebut.

                          Mark.
                          "8. Abortion kills an innocent human being. Capital punishment applied by the criminal justice system kills a guilty human being to avenge victims and protect society. The two situations are not remotely related."

                          Bullshit. Both are egregious and vengeance is evil. They are both intimately related because they both deal with deliberately killing someone.

                          "9. By completely eliminating the power that the several states once held on the federal government, the 17th Amendment turned the American system inside out. By breaking the Constitution’s delicately balanced system, the 17th was in fact a much more devastating revolution even than the Civil War."

                          This is by nature an opinion, not a fact. How does someone measure something that is more devastating than something else? How may people have died since the 17th Amendment? How far has our average and median standard of living fallen since then?
                          "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                          -John Locke

                          "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                          -Newman

                          "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
                          -Newman

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                          • 80zephyr
                            Senior Member
                            • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                            • 19074

                            #14


                            "8. Abortion kills an innocent human being. Capital punishment applied by the criminal justice system kills a guilty human being to avenge victims and protect society. The two situations are not remotely related."

                            Bullshit. Both are egregious and vengeance is evil. They are both intimately related because they both deal with deliberately killing someone.
                            So, using your "logic" killing someone in a war must be like abortion and the death penalty.

                            "9. By completely eliminating the power that the several states once held on the federal government, the 17th Amendment turned the American system inside out. By breaking the Constitution’s delicately balanced system, the 17th was in fact a much more devastating revolution even than the Civil War."

                            This is by nature an opinion, not a fact. How does someone measure something that is more devastating than something else? How may people have died since the 17th Amendment? How far has our average and median standard of living fallen since then?
                            [/QUOTE]

                            Reducing states rights is the issue the author is talking about. Good try though.

                            Mark


                            Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                            "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                            Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                            Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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                            • scott
                              Go-to Guru
                              • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                              • 15799

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post



                              So, using your "logic" killing someone in a war must be like abortion and the death penalty.
                              It's similar in that it's deliberate killing, yes.


                              Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
                              Reducing states rights is the issue the author is talking about. Good try though.

                              Mark

                              Funny, the author made a direct statement. You said it was fact and that it could not be refuted. I just did.

                              "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                              -John Locke

                              "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                              -Newman

                              "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
                              -Newman

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