Transgender individuals and suicide

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JAMA

[scott]

Transition surgery makes it worse:

All 324 sex-reassigned persons (191 male-to-females, 133 female-to-males) in Sweden, 1973–2003. Random population controls (10∶1) were matched by birth year and birth sex or reassigned (final) sex, respectively.
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Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behaviour, and psychiatric morbidity than the general population. Our findings suggest that sex reassignment, although alleviating gender dysphoria, may not suffice as treatment for transsexualism, and should inspire improved psychiatric and somatic care after sex reassignment for this patient group.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885

The key is to look for "transition," "reassignment" and "surgery" if you want the clinical results before this became a political cause.

There's a reason they now call it "gender-affirming care" and now have short and small research studies showing that there might be a benefit to giving people hormones and surgical modifications.

[scott]

I'm surprised this is still up:

What’s the scientific bottom line?

Swedish child and adolescent psychiatrist Sven Roman (who is no conservative) sums up the research: “There is currently no scientific support for gender-corrective treatment to reduce the risk of suicide.”2

Psychologists Dr. Michael Bailey (Northwestern University) and Dr. Ray Blanchard (University of Toronto) agree: “[T]he best scientific evidence suggests that gender transition is not necessary to prevent suicide. . . . There is no persuasive evidence that gender transition reduces gender dysphoric children’s likelihood of killing themselves.”3

https://acpeds.org/assets/for-GID-page-1-The-Myth-About-Suicide-and-Gender-Dysphoric-Children-handout.pdf

[Celeste Chalfonte]

I support adults being allowed to choose whatever cosmetic surgery they can find a surgeon willing to provide, even if I think both patient and doctor are misguided. After all, we've seen some truly horrendous outcomes of conventional plastic surgery, especially repeated surgeries.

However, I remain convinced that raising children to accept themselves and embrace their own worth is the best preventive for any condition likely to give rise to a desire for sex-reassignment treatment. No, if Johnny's natural development is allowed to proceed, he's never going to look like a Disney princess. But neither are 99.99% of all girls who have the same ambition.

HRH is in the 1st percentile for stature (4'10") and near the top for head circumference. She could not tan if she dedicated her entire life to it. She manages juvenile-onset idiopathic rheumatoid arthritis with diet and exercise, but her early dreams of being a professional dancer were never going to pan out (just like those of most kids who want to be professional dancers, singers, or athletes). She probably has the most positive self-image of anyone I know. And because she does, pretty much everyone who meets her thinks she's beautiful. Instead of being taunted for being different, she was dubbed "fun-size" by her high-school friends.

I worked with a woman, a former boss of mine, actually, who had not one good physical feature. Her hair was carrot-orange and very curly, bordering on frizzy. Her skin was fish-belly white and liberally sprinkled with freckles from head to toe. She had been significantly overweight her whole life. Oh, and she was 6' tall in flats (which she seldom wore). Someone early on convinced her she was fabulous...and she was! Very smart, very accomplished, a huge personality, a sense of her own style (she could actually wear pink and look as good as she thought she did), and by the time you had spent 10 minutes with her, you thought she was gorgeous. When I see photos of her, I almost can't believe it's her, because the camera doesn't capture the zing. She was married to a very handsome man, and the male clients (and even opposing counsel) were in her thrall.

Helping children feel good in their skin will cure many ailments. And for the rare person who really has a mismatch between the physical body and the brain, allowing that to manifest in behaviors and dress until they are old enough to make life-altering choices will avoid a whole lot of mistakes.

[scott]

I support adults being allowed to choose whatever cosmetic surgery they can find a surgeon willing to provide, even if I think both patient and doctor are misguided. After all, we've seen some truly horrendous outcomes of conventional plastic surgery, especially repeated surgeries.

However, I remain convinced that raising children to accept themselves and embrace their own worth is the best preventive for any condition likely to give rise to a desire for sex-reassignment treatment. No, if Johnny's natural development is allowed to proceed, he's never going to look like a Disney princess. But neither are 99.99% of all girls who have the same ambition.

HRH is in the 1st percentile for stature (4'10") and near the top for head circumference. She could not tan if she dedicated her entire life to it. She manages juvenile-onset idiopathic rheumatoid arthritis with diet and exercise, but her early dreams of being a professional dancer were never going to pan out (just like those of most kids who want to be professional dancers, singers, or athletes). She probably has the most positive self-image of anyone I know. And because she does, pretty much everyone who meets her thinks she's beautiful. Instead of being taunted for being different, she was dubbed "fun-size" by her high-school friends.

I worked with a woman, a former boss of mine, actually, who had not one good physical feature. Her hair was carrot-orange and very curly, bordering on frizzy. Her skin was fish-belly white and liberally sprinkled with freckles from head to toe. She had been significantly overweight her whole life. Oh, and she was 6' tall in flats (which she seldom wore). Someone early on convinced her she was fabulous...and she was! Very smart, very accomplished, a huge personality, a sense of her own style (she could actually wear pink and look as good as she thought she did), and by the time you had spent 10 minutes with her, you thought she was gorgeous. When I see photos of her, I almost can't believe it's her, because the camera doesn't capture the zing. She was married to a very handsome man, and the male clients (and even opposing counsel) were in her thrall.

Helping children feel good in their skin will cure many ailments. And for the rare person who really has a mismatch between the physical body and the brain, allowing that to manifest in behaviors and dress until they are old enough to make life-altering choices will avoid a whole lot of mistakes.

I agree completely.

[Lady Marva]

Because dim be la crazy in the caboose to begin wit