Who Will Pick Our Crops? The Fragile Excuse of Exploitation

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  • 80zephyr
    Senior Member
    • Saturday, January 3, 2015
    • 19074

    #1

    Who Will Pick Our Crops? The Fragile Excuse of Exploitation

    Have to say I agree with this article.




    The True Price of Exploited Farmworkers


    Every so often, when the conversation veers toward the societal costs of illegal immigration, one can almost predict the emergence of a tired refrain, delivered with all the sincerity of a child rehearsing lines for a school play. “Who will pick our crops?” they ask, as though this plaintive wail were some profound economic insight rather than the rhetorical equivalent of a fig leaf hastily employed to cover up moral abdication. It’s a question designed not to spark a discussion on the issue, as you’ll often find they can’t discuss much further than that line. It’s brought up as a rhetorical device, not to initiate a discussion on illegal immigration, but to silence it, cloaked in the garb of economic pragmatism while quietly reeking of complacency. This is the anthem of those who defend a system built on frailty, fear, and the exploitation of the vulnerable—all while pretending it’s the unshakable bedrock of our prosperity.

    You see, the “Who will pick our crops?” argument is as much an economic analysis as claiming that duct tape is a cure-all for a crumbling building. It’s the plaintive cry of those who see fragility and confuse it with resilience—who believe that patching a failing system is somehow equivalent to reforming it. Like a chorus that repeats despite its discordant notes, the 'Who will pick our crops?' refrain resurfaces in every discussion on illegal immigration. It’s less an inquiry than an incantation—a talisman against the specter of reform. After all, genuine reform might require actual work—difficult choices, ethical consideration, and—dare I say—a bit of courage. Instead, we are left with hand-wringing over the fate of our fruit bowls, which is as persuasive as a foghorn in a string quartet.

    So let’s have a look on this topic that so many raise and so few actually explore and at least for those reading this, retire this excuse and expose it for the unserious drivel that it is.A Convenient Excuse for Exploitation

    The appeal to “Who will pick our crops?” rests on the laughably thin premise that undocumented workers must remain trapped in a cycle of underpayment and exploitation, lest the rest of us face the unthinkable calamity of marginally higher grocery bills. It is an argument so devoid of moral or economic seriousness that one wonders how it has managed to persist in any forum where rational thought is expected. Far from being a defense of economic necessity, it is a convenient justification for preserving a system reliant on voiceless, disposable labor.

    And let’s not ignore the obvious parallels. My critiques here apply equally to the H-1B visa system, where corporate interests dress up exploitation as benevolent necessity. The same voices advocating for undocumented farm labor often sing a similar tune in defense of H-1B workers, championing systems designed to suppress wages and strip power from workers—all to line corporate coffers. While the mechanics may differ, the outcome is eerily similar: a preservation of comfort for a select few at the expense of justice for many.

    For now, let us focus on agriculture, where the argument for exploitation takes on its most cartoonishly thin veneer of economic pragmatism. Let’s examine the actual numbers behind this charade. In farm labor, wages typically account for less than 10% of the retail cost of food. That’s right—if your apple costs a dollar, the labor required to pick it amounts to a mere dime. Now imagine doubling the wages of farmworkers, allowing them to earn a living wage. What happens? That apple now costs $1.10. Ten cents. A rounding error in a world where retail markups, fuel costs, and global trade disruptions wield far greater influence on prices.

    The argument that increasing farmworker wages would somehow collapse the agricultural industry is not just fragile—it’s transparently absurd. It’s akin to building a house of cards and claiming it’s an architectural marvel. The only thing propping up this delusion is a collective willingness to ignore its glaring vulnerabilities. In reality, this defense is so thin that a light breeze of scrutiny sends it tumbling into irrelevance.

    But of course, that’s the point, isn’t it? The “Who will pick our crops?” refrain isn’t about seeking solutions—it’s about stifling conversation. It’s an argument employed not to address the issue but to deflect from it, to avoid the uncomfortable truth that a system predicated on the exploitation of the vulnerable is neither sustainable nor just. And as with the H-1B system as I’ve covered before (here, here, here, here, here and podcasted here) the real winners are not the workers or even the consumers, but the corporations that profit from the status quo while cloaking their greed in the language of necessity and even humanitarianism.

    The question, then, isn’t whether we can afford to pay farmworkers fairly. It’s whether we can afford to continue pretending that we can’t.
    Rest at link.





    Mark


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  • Newman
    Behind the Iron Curtain
    • Friday, November 1, 2013
    • 25814

    #2
    Good article, thanks.

    And it doesn't (that I saw) mention racism, which I think is an unspoken subtext of the whole charade. "Who will pick our crops? Not us, of course."

    I've occasionally cited the most pernicious example of this racism as I see it in erstwhile defenses of affirmative action/lowering standards in, say medical school admissions (for the select victims of systemic racism): "They will take much needed medical services back to their communities...."

    A quick translation: "They'll never get work in our communities, We'll take the smart, white ones, ya big dummy."



    Every black American doctor (to stay with this example) has to deal with the assumption that he or she would not have made the cut had they been white.
    • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
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    • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
    • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
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    • Celeste Chalfonte
      apostate
      • Saturday, October 5, 2013
      • 27897

      #3
      And in some states, the government looks the other way when agribusiness uses illegal workers for underpaid stoop labor (how is this not a direct descendant of slavery?) but denies them unemployment and workers' comp benefits.
      "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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      • Newman
        Behind the Iron Curtain
        • Friday, November 1, 2013
        • 25814

        #4
        I think I'm going to start lobbying our elected poohbahs (as if that matters).

        For years I argued for borders with high walls and wide gates, metaphorically. I think DJ Harkavy and I were in agreement. Now might be a good time to bring that back.

        To be precise, as expulsions pick up steam, we should aggressively pour resources into widening the stream if legal immigrants.

        First, we really do need people, lots more people, not to be roustabouts but to fire the American economy. Oh, and by the way, enable new millions to realize the American dream, which happens in a free, expanding economy.

        And second, expanding immigration defuses the backlash against deportations that will inevitably grow, especially as the cause for deportation becomes less severe.

        In fact, I'd change the law such that some people who entered illegally would be allowed to join the queue for legal entry.
        • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
        • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
        • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
        • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
        • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
        • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
        • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
        • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
        • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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        • Newman
          Behind the Iron Curtain
          • Friday, November 1, 2013
          • 25814

          #5
          Oh, and scotch the free stuff. This is a challenge, because I don't believe as a country we are ready to let children expire on the steps of a hospital for lack of medical care. But what's been going on is ridiculous.
          • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
          • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
          • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
          • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
          • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
          • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
          • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
          • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
          • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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          • 80zephyr
            Senior Member
            • Saturday, January 3, 2015
            • 19074

            #6
            Originally posted by Newman View Post
            I think I'm going to start lobbying our elected poohbahs (as if that matters).

            For years I argued for borders with high walls and wide gates, metaphorically. I think DJ Harkavy and I were in agreement. Now might be a good time to bring that back.

            To be precise, as expulsions pick up steam, we should aggressively pour resources into widening the stream if legal immigrants.

            First, we really do need people, lots more people, not to be roustabouts but to fire the American economy. Oh, and by the way, enable new millions to realize the American dream, which happens in a free, expanding economy.

            And second, expanding immigration defuses the backlash against deportations that will inevitably grow, especially as the cause for deportation becomes less severe.

            In fact, I'd change the law such that some people who entered illegally would be allowed to join the queue for legal entry.
            I think the deluge of people we have let in already have to assimilate. Wouldn't bother me to stop all immigration for 10 years. I am not in favor of "stealing" the best and the brightest from other nations either. For other countries to move ahead, they need their own people to move their home countries along.

            Mark
            Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

            "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

            Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

            Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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            • Celeste Chalfonte
              apostate
              • Saturday, October 5, 2013
              • 27897

              #7
              Our population is top-heavy on age. We could definitely use healthy, bright, ambitious young people. But alongside that, we need to develop our own healthy, bright, ambitious young people. And that means changing our schools and cities, so that kids can learn and believe that the child of low-wage workers can end up in a job that we currently either outsource to Asia or the Indian subcontinent, or import an H1B to do, which amounts to the same thing.
              "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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              • Newman
                Behind the Iron Curtain
                • Friday, November 1, 2013
                • 25814

                #8
                Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post

                I think the deluge of people we have let in already have to assimilate. Wouldn't bother me to stop all immigration for 10 years. I am not in favor of "stealing" the best and the brightest from other nations either. For other countries to move ahead, they need their own people to move their home countries along.

                Mark
                What I envision is rather a swap. Out with the bad—what's happening now—but replacing illegal residents for legal ones, which new legalized ones could include many "redeemed" illegal residents who return to their country (with our "assist"), and come back through proper channels.

                We should closely scrutinize this flow. I don't think I would re-admit military age single men from certain countries including China, for example.

                But I do think most immigrants are earnest contributors to our system who do appreciate our advantages and opportunities, and I have ABSOLUTE confidence that the Spanish speaking community by and large, legal and il-, will completely assimilate and realize the "dream" in the space of a couple of generations.

                I do want to augment our population substantially. I don't care about color and such; I care about values.

                Anyway, I'm thinking with my keyboard here, seeing where this goes.

                I think if we try simply to power through, starting with "the worst first" and ending with who? everybody's favorite nanny? we will eventually run up against insurmountable resistance.

                It's like trying to run that short-yardage "tush push" football play from increasing distances.

                It won't work, and we may lose support for immigration control sort of like the "Red Scare" HUAAC excesses cost us support for rooting out genuine Communist spies and agents. (For which I'm sure Swallwell and Feinstein are eternally grateful.)

                Right now the wait for legitimate immigration is many years, I understand. That's unacceptable I think. Make that pipeline less than a year, 6-8 months average, say.

                If you make reforming that pipeline go hand in hand with deporting illegals, you may find a sustainable balance.



                • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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                • 80zephyr
                  Senior Member
                  • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                  • 19074

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
                  Our population is top-heavy on age. We could definitely use healthy, bright, ambitious young people. But alongside that, we need to develop our own healthy, bright, ambitious young people. And that means changing our schools and cities, so that kids can learn and believe that the child of low-wage workers can end up in a job that we currently either outsource to Asia or the Indian subcontinent, or import an H1B to do, which amounts to the same thing.
                  When I was a kid, picking cucumbers and bagging potatoes was done by the local kids. Did kids suddenly decide they didn't want to do the work?

                  Mark
                  Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                  "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                  Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                  Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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                  • 80zephyr
                    Senior Member
                    • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                    • 19074

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Newman View Post
                    What I envision is rather a swap. Out with the bad—what's happening now—but replacing illegal residents for legal ones, which new legalized ones could include many "redeemed" illegal residents who return to their country (with our "assist"), and come back through proper channels.

                    We should closely scrutinize this flow. I don't think I would re-admit military age single men from certain countries including China, for example.

                    But I do think most immigrants are earnest contributors to our system who do appreciate our advantages and opportunities, and I have ABSOLUTE confidence that the Spanish speaking community by and large, legal and il-, will completely assimilate and realize the "dream" in the space of a couple of generations.

                    I do want to augment our population substantially. I don't care about color and such; I care about values.

                    Anyway, I'm thinking with my keyboard here, seeing where this goes.

                    I think if we try simply to power through, starting with "the worst first" and ending with who? everybody's favorite nanny? we will eventually run up against insurmountable resistance.

                    It's like trying to run that short-yardage "tush push" football play from increasing distances.

                    It won't work, and we may lose support for immigration control sort of like the "Red Scare" HUAAC excesses cost us support for rooting out genuine Communist spies and agents. (For which I'm sure Swallwell and Feinstein are eternally grateful.)

                    Right now the wait for legitimate immigration is many years, I understand. That's unacceptable I think. Make that pipeline less than a year, 6-8 months average, say.

                    If you make reforming that pipeline go hand in hand with deporting illegals, you may find a sustainable balance.


                    If we are only gonna deport the worst ones, them maybe you'll deport a million or so. That means the other millions are her to stay. Then what? Give them amnesty? And how many millions more will that attract?

                    Mark
                    Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                    "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                    Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                    Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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                    • Newman
                      Behind the Iron Curtain
                      • Friday, November 1, 2013
                      • 25814

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post

                      If we are only gonna deport the worst ones, them maybe you'll deport a million or so. That means the other millions are her to stay. Then what? Give them amnesty? And how many millions more will that attract?

                      Mark
                      I don't want to stop at the worst, because that effectively opens the "amnesty" argument Democrats have always demanded. I think there should be NO "amnesty," but neither should there be a six-year wait or whatever. If you're a decent sort, truly, go back, get in a 6-month line and come back legal and ready.

                      "Amnesty" has always been a sham in my experience, exactly like the teachers unions striking and demanding amnesty for doing so.
                      • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                      • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                      • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                      • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                      • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                      • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                      • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                      • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                      • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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                      • Celeste Chalfonte
                        apostate
                        • Saturday, October 5, 2013
                        • 27897

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post

                        When I was a kid, picking cucumbers and bagging potatoes was done by the local kids. Did kids suddenly decide they didn't want to do the work?

                        Mark
                        I don't know if it's that, or parents decided for them. And if the kid has any chance of going to college, they have to do "community service" and other non-academic stuff that counts on the college applications and takes up the time we spent working after school and summers.

                        I never picked crops (and most harvesting in our area was done by machines anyway), but I worked every summer, lifeguarding and later managing swimming pools. In college, I worked weekend at the PX. My sister worked part-time at the hospital. Nova started off lifeguarding but found he could make more money waiting tables; he worked from the time he was 15. All of us hustled kid gigs like mucking stalls at the riding stable or babysitting.

                        When I was grown and working full-time, we used to vacation at a campground at the beach. Kids from the local high school worked summers for the garbage collection company down there, to keep fit for football. The lifting worked their upper bodies, and they jogged between pickups instead of riding the truck as the regular year-'round employees did. Brilliant! Get paid (damned well compared to slinging burgers or working in some tourist shop on the boardwalk) to keep in shape for sports!
                        "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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                        • scott
                          Go-to Guru
                          • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                          • 15799

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post

                          When I was a kid, picking cucumbers and bagging potatoes was done by the local kids. Did kids suddenly decide they didn't want to do the work?

                          Mark
                          Liability laws and personal injury attorneys destroyed that. The reason kids don't mow lawns anymore is because people are worried about liability. Homeowner policies specify that (or did in 2015, I haven't owned a house since 2017 but that was in my exclusions in 2015 when I renewed my my policy).
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                          • 80zephyr
                            Senior Member
                            • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                            • 19074

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Newman View Post
                            I don't want to stop at the worst, because that effectively opens the "amnesty" argument Democrats have always demanded. I think there should be NO "amnesty," but neither should there be a six-year wait or whatever. If you're a decent sort, truly, go back, get in a 6-month line and come back legal and ready.

                            "Amnesty" has always been a sham in my experience, exactly like the teachers unions striking and demanding amnesty for doing so.
                            If the wait time is reduced, won't millions get in the cue? Then what happens, you turn them away?

                            Mark
                            Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                            "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                            Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                            Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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                            • 80zephyr
                              Senior Member
                              • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                              • 19074

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post

                              I don't know if it's that, or parents decided for them. And if the kid has any chance of going to college, they have to do "community service" and other non-academic stuff that counts on the college applications and takes up the time we spent working after school and summers.

                              I never picked crops (and most harvesting in our area was done by machines anyway), but I worked every summer, lifeguarding and later managing swimming pools. In college, I worked weekend at the PX. My sister worked part-time at the hospital. Nova started off lifeguarding but found he could make more money waiting tables; he worked from the time he was 15. All of us hustled kid gigs like mucking stalls at the riding stable or babysitting.

                              When I was grown and working full-time, we used to vacation at a campground at the beach. Kids from the local high school worked summers for the garbage collection company down there, to keep fit for football. The lifting worked their upper bodies, and they jogged between pickups instead of riding the truck as the regular year-'round employees did. Brilliant! Get paid (damned well compared to slinging burgers or working in some tourist shop on the boardwalk) to keep in shape for sports!
                              Lol. A guy I knew owned a restaurant, sharp as a tack. He would be in his front yard and a jogger would go by and he'd yell out "become a waitress and get paid for running.

                              Mark
                              Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                              "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                              Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                              Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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