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  • Billy Jingo
    I shave with Occam's Razor
    • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
    • 18663

    #1

    Trump voters didn’t take him literally on Obamacare. Oops?

    Trump voters didn’t take him literally on Obamacare. Oops?


    Donald Trump’s supporters, in conservative writer Salena Zito’s memorable formulation, take him seriously but not literally.

    They will be forgiving if, say, he doesn’t literally get Mexico to pay for a border wall, or if he doesn’t literally ban all Muslims from entering the United States.

    But in other areas, Trump’s supporters perhaps should have taken him literally — because they now may have a serious problem.

    Vox senior editor Sarah Kliff wrote a poignant account last week of her visit to Whitley County, Ky., where the uninsured rate declined 60 percent under Obamacare but 82 percent of voters supported Trump. There, Kliff, a former Post colleague, found Trump voters who were downright frightened that the president-elect would do exactly — literally — what he and Republicans promised: repeal Obamacare.

    Among those she found was Trump voter Debbie Mills, a store owner whose husband awaits a lifesaving liver transplant; they got insurance through Obamacare, and Mills is hoping the law won’t be repealed.
    “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

    ~ Omar El Akkad
    ​
  • Billy Jingo
    I shave with Occam's Razor
    • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
    • 18663

    #2
    “I don’t know what we’ll do if it does go away,” Mills said. “I guess I thought that, you know, [Trump] would not do this. That they would not do this, would not take the insurance away. Knowing that it’s affecting so many people’s lives. I mean, what are you to do then if you cannot . . . purchase, cannot pay for the insurance?”

    Oh, that's an easy question to answer. You die.
    “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

    ~ Omar El Akkad
    ​

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    • 80zephyr
      Senior Member
      • Saturday, January 3, 2015
      • 19074

      #3
      Lol. You got it bad Billy.

      Mark
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      • Billy Jingo
        I shave with Occam's Razor
        • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
        • 18663

        #4
        Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
        Lol. You got it bad Billy.

        Mark
        You might want to get used to people being critical of your Cheeto Jesus, dude. It doesn't mean they got anything, bad or good.
        “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

        ~ Omar El Akkad
        ​

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        • 80zephyr
          Senior Member
          • Saturday, January 3, 2015
          • 19074

          #5
          Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
          You might want to get used to people being critical of your Cheeto Jesus, dude. It doesn't mean they got anything, bad or good.

          We could have elected Jesus Christ, and the wailing from the left would have been exactly the same.

          Mark
          Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

          "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

          Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

          Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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          • Billy Jingo
            I shave with Occam's Razor
            • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
            • 18663

            #6
            Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
            We could have elected Jesus Christ ....
            Republicans? Elect a socialist Jew who railed against greed, stood up for the persecuted and marginalized, challenged the self righteous, and told people to pay their damn taxes and shut the fuck up about it?

            Unlikely.
            “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

            ~ Omar El Akkad
            ​

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            • 80zephyr
              Senior Member
              • Saturday, January 3, 2015
              • 19074

              #7
              Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
              Republicans? Elect a socialist Jew who railed against greed, stood up for the persecuted and marginalized, challenged the self righteous, and told people to pay their damn taxes and shut the fuck up about it?

              Unlikely.
              Its the left that hates the religious pal.




              Mark
              Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

              "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

              Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

              Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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              • Billy Jingo
                I shave with Occam's Razor
                • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                • 18663

                #8
                Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
                Its the left that hates the religious pal.
                ROPMA
                “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

                ~ Omar El Akkad
                ​

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                • Newman
                  Behind the Iron Curtain
                  • Friday, November 1, 2013
                  • 25814

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                  “I don’t know what we’ll do if it does go away,” Mills said. “I guess I thought that, you know, [Trump] would not do this. That they would not do this, would not take the insurance away. Knowing that it’s affecting so many people’s lives. I mean, what are you to do then if you cannot . . . purchase, cannot pay for the insurance?”

                  Oh, that's an easy question to answer. You die.


                  I take the Washington Post, Jeff Bezos' vessel of Fake News, "serious but not literally." So they lob "a poignant account," a floater, into the conversation, a fact-free attempt to whip up anxiety that the evil Nazi Trump wants to leave struggling Americans with no health insurance.

                  This fear-mongering is the progeny of decades old Democrat canards including "They want to take away your Social Security," "They want to put y'all back in chains" and "They don't even want to count you in the census." If they get to repeal Obamacare, you will die. Die! you hear me?!

                  Of course all this pales beside the promise that Trump will deny climate change and doom all of humanity to a miserable end. Or at least to a cold winter.

                  Put the WaPost on the recycling pile and consider the (should be) obvious: Unlike the present day Democrats, the Republicans don't have a death wish for themselves. They've had years to consider and fashion a frigging replacement for the garbled, Christmas Eve coal-in-America's-stocking mess that is ObamaCare. Repeal may be Trump's role, but replace falls to the Republican legislators. If they've got nothing, they'll richly deserve the permanent exile they'll invite.

                  The Democrats handily forget that even Hillary suggested ObamaCare needed work. Now they suggest there is no hope for improvement. None. The Republicans are at the helm. You die.
                  • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                  • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                  • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                  • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                  • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                  • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                  • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                  • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                  • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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                  • Lady Marva
                    Senior Member
                    • Wednesday, June 17, 2015
                    • 13321

                    #10
                    LOLOLOL......... well the OP writer and that author found themselves one set of taxpayer tit-suckers. That's about all it is.

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                    • Norm dePlume
                      Err foil
                      • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
                      • 14904

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Newman View Post


                      I take the Washington Post, Jeff Bezos' vessel of Fake News, "serious but not literally." So they lob "a poignant account," a floater, into the conversation, a fact-free attempt to whip up anxiety that the evil Nazi Trump wants to leave struggling Americans with no health insurance.
                      Does Debbie Mills not exist? Does she not have a husband awaiting a liver transplant? Did Trump not pledge to repeal Obamacare? It seems like those are all facts. Maybe you have an alternate definition for "fact-free".
                      Enjoy.

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                      • Newman
                        Behind the Iron Curtain
                        • Friday, November 1, 2013
                        • 25814

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                        Does Debbie Mills not exist? Does she not have a husband awaiting a liver transplant? Did Trump not pledge to repeal Obamacare? It seems like those are all facts. Maybe you have an alternate definition for "fact-free".
                        Piffle. One might just as honestly say that "You die!" is objectively true.
                        • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                        • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                        • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                        • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                        • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                        • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                        • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                        • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                        • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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                        • Norm dePlume
                          Err foil
                          • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
                          • 14904

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Newman View Post
                          Piffle. One might just as honestly say that "You die!" is objectively true.
                          Can you list one "fact" from the article that is in error?
                          Enjoy.

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                          • Newman
                            Behind the Iron Curtain
                            • Friday, November 1, 2013
                            • 25814

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                            Can you list one "fact" from the article that is in error?
                            Perjury by material omission? Suits me.

                            Debbie Mills probably exists, though since the patron saint of Fake News Janet Cooke won the NYTimes' highest honor, the Pulitzer, I wouldn't bet too heavily on it.

                            Ms. Mills may be paranoid and ignorant, but the WaPost shouldn't be. If we leave the story with her limited understanding of it, we've done the reader a disservice. But then, the WaPost is on a mission.
                            • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                            • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                            • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                            • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                            • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                            • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                            • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                            • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                            • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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                            • Adam
                              The way to a woman's heart is through her taste buds.
                              • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                              • 16885

                              #15
                              LOL! Vox. This is immediately known as being complete and total bullshit. This never happened. They made it up.

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