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  • 80zephyr
    Senior Member
    • Saturday, January 3, 2015
    • 19074

    #1

    GOP, Can You Hear Us Normals Now?

    As a person who has suffered thru conservative inactivity since birth, I find it refreshing that we are FINALLY doling out wake up calls to these buffoons.

    Are we finally getting through to the GOP Establishment; has the pain we militant normals have dealt it performed the vital task of being the teacher of last resort? It’s too bad that’s how the Establishment has to learn that we’re serious about nuking business as usual. We tried being nice; that was the Tea Party, and the Establishment trashed it. Welcome to moderately mean.

    Don’t make us get even meaner.

    Poor Luther Strange, the Collateral Damage Candidate. He’s a nice enough guy, even if his name makes him sound like he ought to be lurking in a volcano lair plotting against The Avengers. But he’s also Mitch McConnell’s guy; this was not a diss of Donald Trump (Future Column Idea: “Why Trump =/= Trumpism”). The base wanted to teach the Elderly Mutant Establishment Turtle, and those aligned with him, a lesson. So the base went with Roy Moore, who is super-colorful in a potentially Todd Akin kind of way, because Roy Moore constitutes a giant middle finger to the crowd that failed to summon up the cajones to repeal Obamacare yet found endless investigations of RUSSIA! TREASON! OK, IT’S JUST SOME ADS ON FACEBOOK BUT WE’RE STILL GOING WITH TREASON! and amnesty for middle-aged Dreamers muy simpatico.

    You almost feel sorry for Mitch because he’s dealing with sanctimonious crones like Susan Collins and liars like John McCain, but then you realize that the only way he manifests his frustration at their slimy duplicity is with that pursed-lip tortoise frown of his. Do the RINOs face any consequences for defying him? Does Mitch ever play hardball with them? Who’s afraid of him? No one. They laugh at him, and he chooses to do nothing. Okay, that’s fine. If he won’t lay down the iron discipline on his apostates, we’ll just burn the heretics ourselves.

    Luther Strange would have been just fine as a senator, but the people of Alabama decided he was more useful as a figurative head mounted on a figurative pike on the figurative castle gate. Sorry Luther, you’ll go down in history as a pleasant but expendable cautionary example.

    But some of the ones who actually are lame are getting the message. Some of these half-steppers are already bailing out before they crash into the mountain. Did Bob Corker, the noted Iran Agreement enabler, ditch his safe Tennessee Senate seat because he needed to spend more time with his family? Was it because he believes in only serving two terms? Perhaps Chet the Unicorn recommended it? No, he saw the writing on the wall.

    In Pennsylvania, House GOP squish Charlie Dent took one look at how his Trump-centric constituents voted and decided this was an opportune time to pursue other opportunities, like the opportunity not to be humiliated in the primary. He’s widely expected to be replaced by Scott Uehlinger, a veteran who is also a former CIA guy – and not the Moby McMullin kind of weaselly former CIA guy. Uehlinger’s the kind of ex-agent who’s not an insufferable, preening, moderate doofus. He’s a hardcore conservative who gets that his blue collar constituents are tired of being treated like dirt by the GOP. He’s the Establishment’s nightmare.
    Are we finally getting through to the GOP Establishment; has the pain we militant normals have dealt it performed the vital task of being the teacher of last resort?




    Mark
    Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

    "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

    Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

    Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.
  • Billy Jingo
    I shave with Occam's Razor
    • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
    • 18663

    #2
    Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
    As a person who has suffered thru conservative inactivity since birth, I find it refreshing that we are FINALLY doling out wake up calls to these buffoons.
    You people make no sense. None.

    The conservative revolution of the last 30-40 years has been epic. Our entire political and economic life has been reordered dramatically toward the neoliberal world order. What the fuck are you people talking about?
    “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

    ~ Omar El Akkad
    ​

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    • 80zephyr
      Senior Member
      • Saturday, January 3, 2015
      • 19074

      #3
      Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
      You people make no sense. None.

      The conservative revolution of the last 30-40 years has been epic. Our entire political and economic life has been reordered dramatically toward the neoliberal world order. What the fuck are you people talking about?
      Have you lost your mind? Except for gun control, the left has gotten everything they have every asked for. Welfare, affirmative action, food stamps, abortion, gay marriage, etc., etc., etc.,

      SHOW me the inroads this great conservative movement has made in the past 60 years.

      If you can't(and you can't), we both will know you are full of bullshit.

      Mark
      Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

      "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

      Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

      Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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      • Billy Jingo
        I shave with Occam's Razor
        • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
        • 18663

        #4
        Good Lord, you are an idiot.

        Read a fucking book, for Christ's sake.
        “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

        ~ Omar El Akkad
        ​

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        • Celeste Chalfonte
          apostate
          • Saturday, October 5, 2013
          • 27897

          #5
          OK, so the writer, who is apparently too timid to say "balls" in English, but doesn't know the difference between genitals and storage in Spanish, is delighted to see the house burned down to address the cockroach problem. Sure, makes sense...in a psychotic sort of way.

          Serious right-wingers can keep right on giving themselves heartburn and fantasizing about turning back the clock, but Alabama can elect every lunatic like Roy Moore they can find (and I would guess that's a fairly unlimited resource in Alabama), it still isn't going to put your women back in the kitchen, pregnant every other year; your kids aren't going to be respectful unless YOU step up and model that...which means being home and doing something besides watching football; black people aren't going "yassuh" you and be satisfied doing your laundry as their highest calling; and gay people are not going back in the closet. Get the fuck over it.

          Now, if you want to elect some real fiscal conservatives (NOT people who waste money putting up giant Christian artworks in public places and then spend MORE money defending their actions), a little rationality on that score would be a nice balance. If you want to elect people who TRULY believe in smaller government (which would obviously mean keeping the government out of everyone's bedroom, church, doctor/patient relationship, marital relationship, and personal consumption choices), that could probably be worked out with old-fashioned bipartisan horsetrading.

          It was a nasty habit of fairly successfully legislating away the rights of all but the select that got you the backlash you whine about.
          "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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          • Gingersnap
            Resident stylistic consultant
            • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
            • 24058

            #6
            Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
            Serious right-wingers can keep right on giving themselves heartburn and fantasizing about turning back the clock, but Alabama can elect every lunatic like Roy Moore they can find (and I would guess that's a fairly unlimited resource in Alabama), it still isn't going to put your women back in the kitchen, pregnant every other year; your kids aren't going to be respectful unless YOU step up and model that...which means being home and doing something besides watching football; black people aren't going "yassuh" you and be satisfied doing your laundry as their highest calling; and gay people are not going back in the closet. Get the fuck over it.
            I'm not sure what to make of this statement.

            I know quite a few "right-wingers" (I guess) but not a one who has aspirations like that. The ones I know just pay taxes, stay away from the law, file jointly, and enjoy deer camp.

            I'm talking about the women here, obviously. Not all men enjoy hunting.
            "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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            • Lady Marva
              Senior Member
              • Wednesday, June 17, 2015
              • 13321

              #7
              Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
              I'm not sure what to make of this statement.

              I know quite a few "right-wingers" (I guess) but not a one who has aspirations like that. The ones I know just pay taxes, stay away from the law, file jointly, and enjoy deer camp.

              I'm talking about the women here, obviously. Not all men enjoy hunting.
              It's a statement by a fruits and nuts California sex pervert who has the usual uppity nose for fly-over country people.

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              • Lady Marva
                Senior Member
                • Wednesday, June 17, 2015
                • 13321

                #8
                So what’s the answer? Easy. Start doing what you promised. Don’t fool yourself into imagining that you’re going to get a free ride if you somehow can’t manage to repeal Obamacare but somehow can manage to give amnesty to a bunch of illegal aliens. You’ve got tax reform coming up – maybe you should stop listening to the wonky geebos at the American Tax Liberty Center for Liberty Tax Freedom Liberty and not screw with your own base by stripping out deductions we normals use to free up money to make Democrat constituents pay less. BTW, when is the Smarmy Dope going to put concealed carry reciprocity up for vote in the House?
                Who is Smarmy Dope?

                Radio reported Trump said normal people's taxes may be simple enough to be done on one sheet of paper. Accounts gonna revolt by "taking a knee" during the entire first half of April.

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                • Newman
                  Behind the Iron Curtain
                  • Friday, November 1, 2013
                  • 25814

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                  Good Lord, you are an idiot.

                  Read a fucking book, for Christ's sake.


                  You wrote, "The conservative revolution of the last 30-40 years has been epic."

                  30-40 points to the "Reagan Revolution," which might fairly be laid to the turbulent '60s and '70s, the Weather Underground, the Great Society, Chicago '68 and the McGovern insurgency.

                  I see the Reagan Revolution as a significant pause in the dissolution of our security and solvency, but if you're going to argue that "our entire political and economic life has been reordered dramatically toward the neoliberal world order," I too want to see some specifics you have in mind, unless you simply oppose economic growth however it's accomplished.

                  All sides of these debates tend to paint the opposition in apocalyptic terms. Better for fund-raising, for one thing. That said, if you wish to deny the ascendancy of the left in many of our institutions I'd like to see more.
                  • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                  • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                  • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                  • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                  • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                  • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                  • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                  • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                  • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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                  • Newman
                    Behind the Iron Curtain
                    • Friday, November 1, 2013
                    • 25814

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
                    I'm not sure what to make of this statement.

                    I know quite a few "right-wingers" (I guess) but not a one who has aspirations like that. The ones I know just pay taxes, stay away from the law, file jointly, and enjoy deer camp.

                    I'm talking about the women here, obviously. Not all men enjoy hunting.
                    It's the apocalyptic propaganda we're used to.
                    • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                    • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                    • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                    • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                    • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                    • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                    • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                    • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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                    • Gingersnap
                      Resident stylistic consultant
                      • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                      • 24058

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Newman View Post
                      It's the apocalyptic propaganda we're used to.
                      So true. My brothers enjoy deer camp and avoiding the police.

                      Seriously though, I never see myself or anybody I know when leftists begin describing me and my life. It's not like I'm not looking - I look hard.

                      While half the country seems to know a white supremacist or thinks they might accidentally be one, I've only ever met one. At Kmart. In the 80's. He thought I would be an attractive addition to the breeding program due to my violently (natural) red hair and lily white skin. He gave me a business card.

                      Mr. Snaps and I have laughed about this encounter ever since. Inspiring braying laughter is probably not what Hitler wants.

                      My "privilege" seems to amount to paying money and not being involved with the criminal justice system (pretty much identical to 80% of black-identified Americans). Possibly not having poor kiddies who are tugged between parents. Maybe freely buying Frontier Girls' cookies at church. Saving up for the 'right' shotgun. Canning everything. I guess that's my privilege. It seems more like just normal life.

                      I will candidly admit that I benefited from affirmative action policies back in the day. In retrospect, that was really wrong. Yes, I got a job. Then I had to spend 2 years proving that I know math. Also, I had to punch a guy. The punching is really irrelevant to the math.

                      The good news is that as a woman, I excelled in my career. Anybody with decent math and an interest in inorganic compounds would, obviously.

                      I'm well aware that women have been treated poorly for centuries. Guess what?

                      Those women are my Mothers. Would any of those women want me to wallow in self-pity? Nope. They'd grab the keys to the car and find a Tequila shot.
                      "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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                      • 80zephyr
                        Senior Member
                        • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                        • 19074

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                        Good Lord, you are an idiot.

                        Read a fucking book, for Christ's sake.
                        I figured that would be your response. Maybe instead of trying to insult me, you could actually refute what I stated.

                        Again, I'll wait.

                        Mark
                        Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                        "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                        Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                        Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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                        • 80zephyr
                          Senior Member
                          • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                          • 19074

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
                          OK, so the writer, who is apparently too timid to say "balls" in English, but doesn't know the difference between genitals and storage in Spanish, is delighted to see the house burned down to address the cockroach problem. Sure, makes sense...in a psychotic sort of way.

                          Serious right-wingers can keep right on giving themselves heartburn and fantasizing about turning back the clock, but Alabama can elect every lunatic like Roy Moore they can find (and I would guess that's a fairly unlimited resource in Alabama), it still isn't going to put your women back in the kitchen, pregnant every other year; your kids aren't going to be respectful unless YOU step up and model that...which means being home and doing something besides watching football; black people aren't going "yassuh" you and be satisfied doing your laundry as their highest calling; and gay people are not going back in the closet. Get the fuck over it.

                          Now, if you want to elect some real fiscal conservatives (NOT people who waste money putting up giant Christian artworks in public places and then spend MORE money defending their actions), a little rationality on that score would be a nice balance. If you want to elect people who TRULY believe in smaller government (which would obviously mean keeping the government out of everyone's bedroom, church, doctor/patient relationship, marital relationship, and personal consumption choices), that could probably be worked out with old-fashioned bipartisan horsetrading.

                          It was a nasty habit of fairly successfully legislating away the rights of all but the select that got you the backlash you whine about.
                          Wow. I expected better. Maybe you could show me all those conservatives that want a woman barefoot and pregnant, and the blacks saying "yassuh"?

                          What you are doing is deflecting. And you are doing it by using the worst examples you can imagine.

                          ark
                          Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                          "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                          Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                          Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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                          • Billy Jingo
                            I shave with Occam's Razor
                            • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                            • 18663

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Newman View Post


                            You wrote, "The conservative revolution of the last 30-40 years has been epic."

                            30-40 points to the "Reagan Revolution," which might fairly be laid to the turbulent '60s and '70s, the Weather Underground, the Great Society, Chicago '68 and the McGovern insurgency.

                            I see the Reagan Revolution as a significant pause in the dissolution of our security and solvency, but if you're going to argue that "our entire political and economic life has been reordered dramatically toward the neoliberal world order," I too want to see some specifics you have in mind, unless you simply oppose economic growth however it's accomplished.

                            All sides of these debates tend to paint the opposition in apocalyptic terms. Better for fund-raising, for one thing. That said, if you wish to deny the ascendancy of the left in many of our institutions I'd like to see more.
                            Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
                            I figured that would be your response. Maybe instead of trying to insult me, you could actually refute what I stated.

                            Again, I'll wait.

                            Mark

                            Sorry fellas. Not going to educate you. The first is a liar so will not address the issue honestly and the second is willfully ignorant so will not listen. What is the point?
                            “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

                            ~ Omar El Akkad
                            ​

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                            • Newman
                              Behind the Iron Curtain
                              • Friday, November 1, 2013
                              • 25814

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                              Sorry fellas. Not going to educate you. The first is a liar so will not address the issue honestly and the second is willfully ignorant so will not listen. What is the point?
                              Fail.
                              • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                              • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                              • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                              • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                              • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                              • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                              • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                              • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                              • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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