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  • Newman
    Behind the Iron Curtain
    • Friday, November 1, 2013
    • 25814

    #1

    Jeff Goldblum and florescent mosquitos

    Remember when "GE" was a company's monogram more than an acronym for Genetic Engineering, and "we bring good things to life" was the company's slogan for a generation? Now that bringing things to life is tantalizingly close to reality, as with woolly mammoths, it's time to remember Jeff Goldblum's moment from Jurassic Park, "Life will find a way":



    A British company named Oxitec has produced a male mosquito of the species Aedes aegypti​ which renders sterile offspring of any females with which they mate. This species carries a number of diseases including dengue and Zeka fever.

    After some years' effort, they got these "Friendly" mosquitos (the company's term) labeled a pesticide, so regulatory hurdles were considerably less difficult, and hundreds of millions have been released into areas of Florida and Texas.

    I first saw this story in an article that labored to suggest a link between the Friendly mosquito and recent cases of malaria, coincidentally also in Florida (4 cases) and Texas (1). Yours truly lives in Sarasota County, where the Florida malaria cases were, so my antennae perked up. But malaria is transmitted by a different species, the Anopheles​, and the "drop area," so to speak, was in Monroe County, on the western side, southernmost tip of the Florida peninsula, quite some distance from Sarasota County. So my antennae lay back down, like Ray Walston's in My Favorite Martian.

    But before the Friendly mosquitos were deployed here, they were tried out to our south, Transgenic Aedes aegypti Mosquitoes Transfer Genes into a Natural Population | Scientific Reports (nature.com)​. The Friendlies also had little florescent genes implanted, which makes them traceable:

    ... Approximately 450 thousand males of this strain were released each week for 27 months in Jacobina, Bahia, Brazil.

    [...]

    This strain also carries a fluorescent protein gene that allows detection of OX513A X wild type F1 offspring. Release of this strain in large numbers has been effective in reducing populations of Ae. aegypti by up to 85%5. The largest such releases to date have been carried out in the city of Jacobina in Bahia, Brazil6. We monitored the Jacobina Ae. aegypti population to determine if the releases have affected the genetics of the natural population by transferring genes, introgressing. If lethality is complete, such releases should result only in population reduction and not affect the genetics of the target population. However, it is known that, under laboratory conditions, 3–4% of the offspring from matings of OX513A with wild type do survive to adulthood although they are weak and it is not known if they are fertile4.​
    Cue Mr. Goldblum.

    So I'm leery of unintended consequences of various attempts to fool Mother Nature, going at least back to rabbits in Australia.

    On the other hand, maybe little florescent taillights were God's idea in the first place, when he introduced lightning bugs, my favorite, mosquito-eating insect.
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  • 80zephyr
    Senior Member
    • Saturday, January 3, 2015
    • 19074

    #2
    Aren't mosquitoes critical to the food chain?

    Mark
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    • Celeste Chalfonte
      apostate
      • Saturday, October 5, 2013
      • 27897

      #3
      Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
      Aren't mosquitoes critical to the food chain?

      Mark
      That's a valid question, but AFAIK, anything that eats mosquitoes (e.g., bats) also eats other insects, of which there are plenty in Florida that don't transmit deadly diseases.

      Mosquitoes act as a key food source for fish, birds, lizards, frogs and bats and other animals. Yet no species relies solely on them, as the journal Nature found in 2010. Other insects could flourish in their place, and it seems most species would find alternatives to eat.Apr 28, 2017 What would happen if we killed all the mosquitoes? - USA Today

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      "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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      • Celeste Chalfonte
        apostate
        • Saturday, October 5, 2013
        • 27897

        #4
        Originally posted by Newman View Post
        On the other hand, maybe little florescent taillights were God's idea in the first place, when he introduced lightning bugs, my favorite, mosquito-eating insect.
        Fluorescent. Unless they generically altered them to produce flowers.
        "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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        • phillygirl
          Not superior, just kind
          • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
          • 19840

          #5
          Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post

          Fluorescent. Unless they generically altered them to produce flowers.
          You really know a lot of words. I might have noticed the misspelling, but I certainly didn't know the definition of the misspelled word!
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          • Celeste Chalfonte
            apostate
            • Saturday, October 5, 2013
            • 27897

            #6
            Originally posted by phillygirl View Post

            You really know a lot of words. I might have noticed the misspelling, but I certainly didn't know the definition of the misspelled word!
            Actually, I only suspected it might be a real word; if it was, the meaning was pretty easy to discern from the root, "flor-.". Before correcting someone, I look up their spelling to see if it's an alternate, permissible variant, based on the etymology of the word. In this case, my instinct that it was not, but was a distinct other word, was correct. Not always the case. Many of the words I do know are mine because of my parents' relentless refrain from my childhood, "Look it up."
            "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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            • phillygirl
              Not superior, just kind
              • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
              • 19840

              #7
              Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post

              Actually, I only suspected it might be a real word; if it was, the meaning was pretty easy to discern from the root, "flor-.". Before correcting someone, I look up their spelling to see if it's an alternate, permissible variant, based on the etymology of the word. In this case, my instinct that it was not, but was a distinct other word, was correct. Not always the case. Many of the words I do know are mine because of my parents' relentless refrain from my childhood, "Look it up."
              My mother always made us look up words, both for definition and for spelling. The spelling piece always made me laugh, because being unaware of how to spell it made it that much more difficult to find in the dictionary. However, as we got older, she admitted that she made us look it up because she was a terrible speller! Yet she acted like it was for our own good!

              Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
              Robert Southwell, S.J.

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              • scott
                Go-to Guru
                • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                • 15799

                #8
                Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
                Aren't mosquitoes critical to the food chain?

                Mark
                Mosquitos are the main pollinators on the planet. It's not bees, it's mosquitos.
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                • Newman
                  Behind the Iron Curtain
                  • Friday, November 1, 2013
                  • 25814

                  #9
                  Originally posted by scott View Post

                  Mosquitos are the main pollinators on the planet. It's not bees, it's mosquitos.
                  What the hell are they trying to pollinate in my arms and ankles? Little bastards, I say, and Mr. and Mrs. Noah should've wielded flyswatters when the skeeters came up to board.
                  • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                  • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                  • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                  • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                  • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                  • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                  • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                  • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                  • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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                  • Celeste Chalfonte
                    apostate
                    • Saturday, October 5, 2013
                    • 27897

                    #10
                    Originally posted by scott View Post

                    Mosquitos are the main pollinators on the planet. It's not bees, it's mosquitos.
                    And there are thousands of species of mosquito to do that job. Eliminating the 2 that carry the worst mosquito-borne diseases is unlikely to disrupt pollination, in my entirely inexpert opinion.
                    "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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                    • Newman
                      Behind the Iron Curtain
                      • Friday, November 1, 2013
                      • 25814

                      #11
                      Someone told me a couple of days ago that once thriving colonies of cave bats in western PA have been almost wiped out by some virus or other. Since bats can gobble up mosquitoes at a rate of about 1,000 an hour, losing them may have an unpleasant effect on the area. Folks are going to feel pollinated up the wazoo.
                      • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                      • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                      • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                      • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                      • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                      • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                      • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                      • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                      • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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                      • scott
                        Go-to Guru
                        • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                        • 15799

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post

                        And there are thousands of species of mosquito to do that job. Eliminating the 2 that carry the worst mosquito-borne diseases is unlikely to disrupt pollination, in my entirely inexpert opinion.
                        I'm all for it. We didn't fight our way to the top of the food chain to die from some bug that lives less than a month.
                        "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                        -John Locke

                        "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                        -Newman

                        "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
                        -Newman

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                        • scott
                          Go-to Guru
                          • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                          • 15799

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Newman View Post
                          Someone told me a couple of days ago that once thriving colonies of cave bats in western PA have been almost wiped out by some virus or other. Since bats can gobble up mosquitoes at a rate of about 1,000 an hour, losing them may have an unpleasant effect on the area. Folks are going to feel pollinated up the wazoo.
                          Fungus

                          https://www.pgc.pa.gov/Wildlife/Wild...orth%20America.
                          "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                          -John Locke

                          "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                          -Newman

                          "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
                          -Newman

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                          • Celeste Chalfonte
                            apostate
                            • Saturday, October 5, 2013
                            • 27897

                            #14
                            Originally posted by scott View Post

                            I'm all for it. We didn't fight our way to the top of the food chain to die from some bug that lives less than a month.
                            Amen, brother!
                            "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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                            • Lady Marva
                              Senior Member
                              • Wednesday, June 17, 2015
                              • 13321

                              #15
                              Mosquitos: good for the spray -on insecticide makers.

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