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  • Gingersnap
    Resident stylistic consultant
    • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
    • 24058

    #1

    Starbucks Pledges to Hire More U.S. Military Veterans

    Starbucks Pledges to Hire More U.S. Military Veterans
    Julie Jargon

    Starbucks Corp. plans to hire more U.S. military veterans and their spouses after facing backlash over its promise to hire refugees.

    Presiding over his last annual shareholders meeting as chief executive on Wednesday, Howard Schultz said Starbucks will hire 15,000 veterans and their spouses by 2025, on top of more than 10,000 hired since a pledge he made four years ago.

    The new drive comes after some customers threatened to boycott Starbucks for its January pledge to hire 10,000 refugees globally over the next five years. The coffee giant made the commitment following President Donald Trump’s first executive order, banning refugees from seven Muslim-majority countries.
    I'm all for hiring Vets but I'm even more for corporations staying out of social/cultural issues. Just sell burnt coffee and be done with it. The nation is divided on many issues so businesses don't do themselves any favors by staking out positions.

    WSJ
    "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."
  • Billy Jingo
    I shave with Occam's Razor
    • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
    • 18663

    #2
    “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

    ~ Omar El Akkad
    ​

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    • Lady Marva
      Senior Member
      • Wednesday, June 17, 2015
      • 13321

      #3
      New Starbucks, now in Target.

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      • Lanie
        Finally have my self respect.
        • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
        • 4829

        #4
        Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
        I'm all for hiring Vets but I'm even more for corporations staying out of social/cultural issues. Just sell burnt coffee and be done with it. The nation is divided on many issues so businesses don't do themselves any favors by staking out positions.

        WSJ
        When refugees or other foreigners are being blocked from a place who has already hired them, companies have to speak up. This all came out while people who had visas and green cards were being blocked from the US.

        And I realize this will make me look bad, but I get really sick of people (usually conservatives, but there are exceptions) playing the Veteran card. Anytime they see something they don't like it's like "What about our veterans?" It's meant to make it look like those who care about refugees don't care about veterans and they're trying to force us to choose. It makes me sick.

        I'm all for helping reform VA, getting vets off the streets, employed, and professional help if they have PTSD. What I'm not for is pitting veterans against another group of people.

        On edit: Otherwise, I do agree that companies should stay out of politics as much as possible. It's really not in some of their nature though.

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        • Newman
          Behind the Iron Curtain
          • Friday, November 1, 2013
          • 25814

          #5
          Originally posted by Lanie View Post
          When refugees or other foreigners are being blocked from a place who has already hired them, companies have to speak up. This all came out while people who had visas and green cards were being blocked from the US.

          And I realize this will make me look bad, but I get really sick of people (usually conservatives, but there are exceptions) playing the Veteran card. Anytime they see something they don't like it's like "What about our veterans?" It's meant to make it look like those who care about refugees don't care about veterans and they're trying to force us to choose. It makes me sick.

          I'm all for helping reform VA, getting vets off the streets, employed, and professional help if they have PTSD. What I'm not for is pitting veterans against another group of people.

          On edit: Otherwise, I do agree that companies should stay out of politics as much as possible. It's really not in some of their nature though.
          Starbucks really stepped in it without thinking it through.

          I asked a friend who runs a pub why he doesn't play the news during the election campaign. He said you may please four guys sitting at the bar, but the fifth thinks they're all idiots and never comes back.

          More people who depend on customers should consider that wisdom.
          • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
          • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
          • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
          • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
          • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
          • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
          • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
          • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
          • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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          • Frostbit
            But only once
            • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
            • 22330

            #6
            Originally posted by Lanie View Post
            This all came out while people who had visas and green cards were being blocked from the US.
            Define "blocked"
            If it pays, it stays

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            • RobJohnson
              Senior Member
              • Tuesday, April 22, 2014
              • 1393

              #7
              Starbucks' earnings dropped when they announced they were going to hire refuges. They are just trying to get the price of their stock back up. Starbucks of course denies that their hiring campaign had anything to do to the stock price lag.

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              • RobJohnson
                Senior Member
                • Tuesday, April 22, 2014
                • 1393

                #8
                Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
                Define "blocked"

                Maybe she is talking about the 2011 travel ban under President Obama that lasted six months? No one seems to talk about that.

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                • Norm dePlume
                  Err foil
                  • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
                  • 14904

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
                  Define "blocked"
                  Projection.

                  Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
                  The end result would be a questioning of the definition of one word in your link.
                  Enjoy.

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                  • Norm dePlume
                    Err foil
                    • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
                    • 14904

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RobJohnson View Post
                    Maybe she is talking about the 2011 travel ban under President Obama that lasted six months? No one seems to talk about that.
                    I see people talk about it, even though it isn't true.
                    Enjoy.

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                    • Billy Jingo
                      I shave with Occam's Razor
                      • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                      • 18663

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                      I see people talk about it, even though it isn't true.
                      But it's true enough.
                      “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

                      ~ Omar El Akkad
                      ​

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                      • Newman
                        Behind the Iron Curtain
                        • Friday, November 1, 2013
                        • 25814

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RobJohnson View Post
                        Starbucks' earnings dropped when they announced they were going to hire refuges. They are just trying to get the price of their stock back up. Starbucks of course denies that their hiring campaign had anything to do to the stock price lag.

                        http://www.westernjournalism.com/sta...hire-refugees/
                        I don't think this sop to veterans helps Starbucks at all.

                        I certainly can't speak about any individual vet, but in my personal experience veterans would scarcely be looking for fulfilling employment as a "barrista" at Starbucks. Those jobs are starting jobs for young people not yet launched on a career path. I remember reading a few years ago that in Israel (as I recall) military vets, especially those with some command experience, were the most highly recruited executives in the private economy.

                        For Starbucks to pledge to hire "15,000 veterans and their spouses" just sounds condescending to me, not unlike the caricature posted here:
                        “I think I saw a troops recruiting at my children’s high school once, but of course I would never consider letting my son join,” said Jennings. “We go to college in this family.”
                        Halp us, Howad Shoots -
                        • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                        • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                        • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                        • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                        • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                        • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                        • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                        • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                        • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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                        • Gingersnap
                          Resident stylistic consultant
                          • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                          • 24058

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Newman View Post
                          I don't think this sop to veterans helps Starbucks at all.

                          I certainly can't speak about any individual vet, but in my personal experience veterans would scarcely be looking for fulfilling employment as a "barrista" at Starbucks. Those jobs are starting jobs for young people not yet launched on a career path. I remember reading a few years ago that in Israel (as I recall) military vets, especially those with some command experience, were the most highly recruited executives in the private economy.

                          For Starbucks to pledge to hire "15,000 veterans and their spouses" just sounds condescending to me, not unlike the caricature posted here:

                          Halp us, Howad Shoots -
                          I think that's correct. We hired Vets preferentially. Not because of 'Thank you for service'. They simply had the electronic/hardware skills we needed. People learn so much on subs and carriers. It's astonishing.

                          We obviously paid them WAY more than Starbucks.
                          "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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                          • Novaheart
                            Guardian of civilization
                            • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                            • 6070

                            #14
                            DO YOU WANT AN EXTRA SHOT IN YOUR LATTE?

                            SIR! YES SIR!
                            The year's at the spring
                            And day's at the morn;
                            Morning's at seven;
                            The hill-side's dew-pearled;
                            The lark's on the wing;
                            The snail's on the thorn:
                            God's in his heaven—
                            All's right with the world!

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                            • RobJohnson
                              Senior Member
                              • Tuesday, April 22, 2014
                              • 1393

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Newman View Post
                              I don't think this sop to veterans helps Starbucks at all.

                              I certainly can't speak about any individual vet, but in my personal experience veterans would scarcely be looking for fulfilling employment as a "barrista" at Starbucks. Those jobs are starting jobs for young people not yet launched on a career path. I remember reading a few years ago that in Israel (as I recall) military vets, especially those with some command experience, were the most highly recruited executives in the private economy.

                              For Starbucks to pledge to hire "15,000 veterans and their spouses" just sounds condescending to me, not unlike the caricature posted here:

                              Halp us, Howad Shoots -
                              Some vets are still in their early twenties and it might be a starting point.

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