White House tells official not to comply with Democratic subpoena over security clearances

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  • Norm dePlume
    Err foil
    • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
    • 14904

    #1

    White House tells official not to comply with Democratic subpoena over security clearances

    White House tells official not to comply with Democratic subpoena over security clearances

    (CNN)The White House has instructed a former official who was in charge of the security clearance process to not comply with a House subpoena demanding his appearance for an interview, the latest move by the Trump administration to thwart Democratic-led investigations into all aspects of the presidency.

    After a day of tense negotiations, the White House late Monday told the former official, Carl Kline, who now works at the Defense Department, to not appear at Tuesday's deposition, contending that Democrats were seeking access to confidential information that should be off limits.
    The move raises the prospect that the House Oversight Committee could seek to hold Kline in contempt, a step that Chairman Elijah Cummings warned Monday he would take. And it's the latest White House effort to stonewall Democratic investigations, coming the same day the Trump Organization filed a lawsuit to prevent an accounting firm from complying with Cummings' subpoena for President Donald Trump's past financial records.
    Nothing to see here, nothing to hide...
    Enjoy.
  • gary m
    Reprobate
    • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
    • 8016

    #2
    Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
    Nothing to see here, nothing to hide...
    There isn't a prison large enough to hold all of the people that have a contempt of Congress, but I doubt that is what you are trolling on about.
    We are so fucked.

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    • Billy Jingo
      I shave with Occam's Razor
      • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
      • 18663

      #3
      Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
      Nothing to see here, nothing to hide...
      If the House issue a contempt charge, will the DOJ actually enforce it?
      “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

      ~ Omar El Akkad
      ​

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      • scott
        Go-to Guru
        • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
        • 15799

        #4
        Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
        If the House issue a contempt charge, will the DOJ actually enforce it?
        That is an interesting question.

        Did Obama's DOJ do so? I don't think so but I'm not sure.
        "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
        -John Locke

        "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
        -Newman

        "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
        -Newman

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        • Billy Jingo
          I shave with Occam's Razor
          • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
          • 18663

          #5
          Originally posted by scott View Post
          That is an interesting question.

          Did Obama's DOJ do so? I don't think so but I'm not sure.
          Did the House hold someone in contempt? I they censured Holder and the head of the IRS but I’m not really sure without looking.
          “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

          ~ Omar El Akkad
          ​

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          • 80zephyr
            Senior Member
            • Saturday, January 3, 2015
            • 19074

            #6
            Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
            Nothing to see here, nothing to hide...
            Nothing to see here either:

            Should the House have held Eric Holder in contempt? The question is not whether they should have; the question is why they did not do it earlier.
            Despite the attempts by the Democrats to spin this into something it is not, the contempt is very straightforward: Darryl Issa's committee issued a subpoena for documents relating to the Fast and Furious scandal. Congress, like the courts, has subpoena power. A subpoena is simply an order to appear at a certain date at a certain time to give testimony. A subpoena can also command someone to bring items or documents with them for their testimony. This is what has been happening in the House of Representatives.
            When someone receives a subpoena, they can either comply or challenge the subpoena on certain legal grounds or claim the documents are privileged. What they cannot do is ignore the subpoena and that is what Holder did. For months, Holder has ignored the subpoena. When Darryl Issa asked if the documents had been assembled within the Justice Department, Holder refused to answer. In short, he was thumbing his nose at the committee.
            Contempt is what is called a remedial power. If you fail to comply with a subpoena, you can be jailed until you do comply. You can also be jailed for contempt as a separate offense. Not shockingly, the most corrupt administration since the Nixon administration quickly announced after the contempt vote that it would not prosecute Eric Holder for contempt.
            The problem here is that the Obama Regime believes it is above the law. Eric Holder went off to Disney World the day the House voted on holding him in contempt.
            Doesn't that send a message? The only thing missing was Holder's extended middle finger pointed towards Congress and Darryl Issa. Holder should be jailed for contempt. He is not simply disagreeing with Congress. He is acting in defiance of the law.



            Mark
            Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

            "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

            Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

            Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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            • Norm dePlume
              Err foil
              • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
              • 14904

              #7
              Thanks for that, Rip Van Winkle. I think you folks complained about that back when it was relevant.
              Enjoy.

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              • 80zephyr
                Senior Member
                • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                • 19074

                #8
                Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                Thanks for that, Rip Van Winkle. I think you folks complained about that back when it was relevant.
                What I thought is not important. Tell me Norm, did you rail against Holder, or were you happy with what he did?

                Mark
                Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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                • scott
                  Go-to Guru
                  • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                  • 15799

                  #9
                  https://www.politico.com/story/2012/...ongress-077988
                  "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                  -John Locke

                  "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                  -Newman

                  "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
                  -Newman

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                  • scott
                    Go-to Guru
                    • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                    • 15799

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                    Thanks for that, Rip Van Winkle. I think you folks complained about that back when it was relevant.
                    Tell that to your alter ego.

                    "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                    -John Locke

                    "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                    -Newman

                    "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
                    -Newman

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                    • Norm dePlume
                      Err foil
                      • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
                      • 14904

                      #11
                      Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
                      What I thought is not important.
                      Axiomatic.
                      Enjoy.

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                      • 80zephyr
                        Senior Member
                        • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                        • 19074

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Norm dePlume View Post
                        Axiomatic.
                        Way to dodge the question Norm.

                        Mark
                        Race Card: A tool of the intellectually weak and lazy when they cannot counter a logical argument or factual data.

                        "Liberals have to stop insisting that the world is what they want it to be instead of the way it is." - Bill Maher

                        Political correctness is ideological fascism. It’s the antithesis of freedom. Dr. Piper

                        Gender is not a "Social Construct", it is an outgrowth of biological reality.

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                        • Billy Jingo
                          I shave with Occam's Razor
                          • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                          • 18663

                          #13
                          There you go. It’s meaningless. The President can tell Congress to go fuck itself.
                          “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

                          ~ Omar El Akkad
                          ​

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                          • Michele
                            Senior Member
                            • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                            • 13964

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
                            What I thought is not important. Tell me Norm, did you rail against Holder, or were you happy with what he did?

                            Mark
                            Thread killer.
                            May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
                            Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
                            And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
                            may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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                            • Norm dePlume
                              Err foil
                              • Tuesday, October 22, 2013
                              • 14904

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 80zephyr View Post
                              What I thought is not important. Tell me Norm, did you rail against Holder, or were you happy with what he did?

                              Mark
                              So what you thought is not important. But what I thought is important. You are incoherent.
                              Enjoy.

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