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  • Newman
    Behind the Iron Curtain
    • Friday, November 1, 2013
    • 25814

    #1

    Love Hurts

    Progressives always damage those they champion. Union have been a big pillar of the Democrat Party for a century near about. No matter.

    Newly Unemployed Keystone XL Pipeline Worker Drops a Reality Bomb on Both Biden and Buttigieg
    A former Keystone XL Pipeline worker is speaking out about the unemployment troubles he and his fellow workers are facing due to the Biden administration’s decision to stop construction on the years-long project suddenly.

    On day one, Joe Biden signed an executive order to halt the construction of the pipeline meant to bring Candian crude oil safely and swiftly into the United States. Democrats gave the excuse that the project was being halted due to its adding to the climate crisis but there is still no evidence that the risk of leaks outweighs the damage done and oil lost during transportation. On top of that, studies show that the pipeline actually helped improve the environment by reducing CO2 costs in transporting the oil from Canada to Texas.

    But the environmental impact is only one element the Democrats got wrong. The economic impact is also going to be devastating for many, including those who worked on the pipeline.
    This includes Neal Crabtree, a welding foreman who’s been working on the pipeline since 1997. Crabtree was interviewed by Fox News on the matter.

    “Just like the rest of the country, COVID hurt us bad. We had a lot of projects canceled,” he told Fox News. “We’ve got guys that haven’t worked in months, and in some cases years, and to have a project of this magnitude canceled, it’s going to hurt a lot of people, a lot of families, a lot of communities.”

    Texas Senator Ted Cruz brought up the fact that thousands of people like Crabtree would be without a job with this sudden stroke of a pen to Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg who simply responded that the Biden administration was “very eager to see those workers continue to be employed in good-paying union jobs, even if they might be different ones,” but Crabtree made it clear that it’s not as simple as switching jobs.

    “I don’t consider this a job, I consider it a career,” he said. “You spend a lifetime fine-tuning your skills and if you go start another job you’re starting at the bottom. I doubt that these politicians would like it if someone told them to go start over and find a different job.”

    The Biden administration believes that what it’s doing is taking a more responsible and green approach to oil, jobs, and climate change, but as Crabtree makes it clear, their ideas aren’t exactly well thought out.

    “I can’t understand how the pipeline industry has become the villains,” said Crabtree. “The American public doesn’t understand that by not building this pipeline, it’s not going to keep the oil from getting to the market. It’s already coming.”

    “You can’t just flip a switch and go from fossil fuels to renewable energy,” he added.

    Like the other thousands of workers, Crabtree fears for his future and admits to having broken down into tears inside his truck after his team was laid off.

    “I’m in the process of building a house, trying to live the American dream, and the bank might own it before I get a chance to live in it,” he said.
    Learn to code, chump.
    • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
    • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
    • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
    • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
    • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
    • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
    • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
    • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
    • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.
  • Frostbit
    But only once
    • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
    • 22330

    #2
    Originally posted by Newman View Post
    Progressives always damage those they champion. Union have been a big pillar of the Democrat Party for a century near about. No matter.

    Newly Unemployed Keystone XL Pipeline Worker Drops a Reality Bomb on Both Biden and Buttigieg
    Learn to code, chump.
    Being from PA I talk with folks there regularly. There's no one word about the Pipeline on the news I was told. Phillygirl? JB?
    If it pays, it stays

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    • JB
      Don't believe the hype
      • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
      • 4408

      #3
      Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
      Being from PA I talk with folks there regularly. There's no one word about the Pipeline on the news I was told. Phillygirl? JB?
      What pipeline!

      Originally posted by Newman View Post
      Learn to code, chump.
      That's not even the answer anymore. Unless you want to look over your shoulder waiting for the next outsource to occur.

      Be a plumber.
      Once you vote yourselves into Communism, you must shoot your way out.

      Science that cannot be questioned is propaganda.

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      • JB
        Don't believe the hype
        • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
        • 4408

        #4
        And I imagine those pipeline guys are not too old to not have heard the broken promise of "shovel ready jobs" or the other failures of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

        Can't really feel sympathy for them when they voted the guy into office that they knew would go down this road.
        Once you vote yourselves into Communism, you must shoot your way out.

        Science that cannot be questioned is propaganda.

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        • Frostbit
          But only once
          • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
          • 22330

          #5
          Originally posted by JB View Post

          Be a plumber.
          Crack up
          If it pays, it stays

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          • scott
            Go-to Guru
            • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
            • 15799

            #6
            The truly amazing part is that the pipeline doesn't make this import possible, it just makes it cheaper. The oil will still be brought in by truck and rail, it's just more expensive to do it that way.

            This is political virtue signalling, period.
            "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
            -John Locke

            "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
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            • Newman
              Behind the Iron Curtain
              • Friday, November 1, 2013
              • 25814

              #7
              Originally posted by JB View Post
              And I imagine those pipeline guys are not too old to not have heard the broken promise of "shovel ready jobs" or the other failures of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act.

              Can't really feel sympathy for them if they voted the guy into office that they knew would go down this road.
              Fixed. I don't want to assume any of them voted for Biden. They're not stupid.
              • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
              • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
              • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
              • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
              • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
              • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
              • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
              • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
              • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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              • Newman
                Behind the Iron Curtain
                • Friday, November 1, 2013
                • 25814

                #8
                Originally posted by scott View Post
                The truly amazing part is that the pipeline doesn't make this import possible, it just makes it cheaper. The oil will still be brought in by truck and rail, it's just more expensive to do it that way.

                This is political virtue signalling, period.
                Economy is not in their interests.
                • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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                • Frostbit
                  But only once
                  • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                  • 22330

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Newman View Post
                  Economy is not in their interests.
                  another 7,000 jobs lost on the border wall.
                  If it pays, it stays

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                  • gary m
                    Reprobate
                    • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                    • 8016

                    #10
                    Originally posted by scott View Post
                    The truly amazing part is that the pipeline doesn't make this import possible, it just makes it cheaper. The oil will still be brought in by truck and rail, it's just more expensive to do it that way.

                    This is political virtue signalling, period.
                    I doubt it is political virtue signaling as much as political payback.

                    Warren Buffet bought BNSF and spent billions to rail ship a lot of the oil being brought from the fields the pipeline would serve. If Keystone starts pumping 700,000 barrels a day, then his railroad loses that business and the ability to move oil at 3 to 5 times the cost of pipeline transportation.

                    Buffet, like many extremely wealthy people (Gates, Zuckerberg, Dorsey, et al) is a staunch Democratic backer and stands to lose a ton of money and would do anything to prevent Keystone from being completed.
                    We are so fucked.

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                    • JB
                      Don't believe the hype
                      • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                      • 4408

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
                      another 7,000 jobs lost on the border wall.
                      That was already funded no less!
                      Once you vote yourselves into Communism, you must shoot your way out.

                      Science that cannot be questioned is propaganda.

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                      • JB
                        Don't believe the hype
                        • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                        • 4408

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Newman View Post
                        Fixed. I don't want to assume any of them voted for Biden. They're not stupid.
                        Well, their union did:

                        UNITED ASSOCIATION OF UNION PLUMBERS AND PIPEFITTERS ENDORSES VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN FOR PRESIDENT

                        And now the union president regrets it:

                        Union that endorsed Biden has buyer's remorse after president cancels Keystone Pipeline

                        So yeah, stupid at the top at least.
                        Once you vote yourselves into Communism, you must shoot your way out.

                        Science that cannot be questioned is propaganda.

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                        • Newman
                          Behind the Iron Curtain
                          • Friday, November 1, 2013
                          • 25814

                          #13
                          The union will endorse Democrats next time, too.

                          Count on it.
                          • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                          • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                          • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                          • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                          • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                          • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                          • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                          • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                          • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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                          • 80zephyr
                            Senior Member
                            • Saturday, January 3, 2015
                            • 19074

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Newman View Post
                            The union will endorse Democrats next time, too.

                            Count on it.
                            Yep. At my last union meeting I was one against 20 or so other members. A few of them my own family.

                            A hard nut to crack.

                            Mark
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