Biden’s son discharged from Navy after positive cocaine test

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  • phillygirl
    Not superior, just kind
    • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
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    Biden’s son discharged from Navy after positive cocaine test

    Vice President Joe Biden's son Hunter was discharged from the Navy Reserve after testing positive for cocaine, a source familiar with the matter confirmed Thursday.
    The source spoke anonymously because no permission had been given to speak publicly about a personnel issue.
    The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday that Biden was discharged earlier this year after failing a drug test in June 2013. A lawyer and former lobbyist, Biden was commissioned as an ensign in the Navy Reserve in 2013. He applied for a commission into the reserve as a public affairs officer at age 42. Because of his age, Biden needed a waiver to apply. The Journal reported he needed a second waiver because of a drug-related charge when he was younger, a request that is not unusual.
    "It was the honor of my life to serve in the US Navy, and I deeply regret and am embarrassed that my actions led to my administrative discharge," Hunter Biden said in a statement. "I respect the Navy's decision. With the love and support of my family, I'm moving forward."
    Vice President Biden's office declined to comment.

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  • Lanie
    Finally have my self respect.
    • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
    • 4829

    #2
    That's a shame.

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    • Gingersnap
      Resident stylistic consultant
      • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
      • 24058

      #3
      I think 2 of his kids had/have drug problems.
      "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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      • Frostbit
        But only once
        • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
        • 22330

        #4
        Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
        I think 2 of his kids had/have drug problems.
        I hope all the guns are removed from the households. Wouldn't want anyone shot through a door.
        If it pays, it stays

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        • Adam
          The way to a woman's heart is through her taste buds.
          • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
          • 16885

          #5
          Originally posted by Frostbit View Post
          I hope all the guns are removed from the households. Wouldn't want anyone shot through a door.
          Or off a back porch.
          It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
          In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
          Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
          Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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          • Michele
            Senior Member
            • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
            • 13964

            #6
            Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
            I think 2 of his kids had/have drug problems.
            I was thinking the same. Pretty sad.
            May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
            Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
            And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
            may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.

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            • Celeste Chalfonte
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              • Saturday, October 5, 2013
              • 27897

              #7
              Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
              I think 2 of his kids had/have drug problems.
              What's a "drug problem?" It sounds like this one is a high-functioning person who had to pee in a cup too soon after a recreational use. Poor judgment if he really wanted to stay in the reserves. Not necessarily a "drug problem," without more information.
              "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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              • Frostbit
                But only once
                • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                • 22330

                #8
                Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
                What's a "drug problem?" It sounds like this one is a high-functioning person who had to pee in a cup too soon after a recreational use. Poor judgment if he really wanted to stay in the reserves. Not necessarily a "drug problem," without more information.
                Definitely a "drug problem" when his Father is Vice-President.
                If it pays, it stays

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                • Gingersnap
                  Resident stylistic consultant
                  • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                  • 24058

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
                  What's a "drug problem?" It sounds like this one is a high-functioning person who had to pee in a cup too soon after a recreational use. Poor judgment if he really wanted to stay in the reserves. Not necessarily a "drug problem," without more information.
                  Well, he had to get a drug waiver to get into the Navy Reserve to begin with which means he's got some kind of drug charge in his past. So, he had enough of a problem to get a drug charge when he was younger and he's still dumb enough at 40+ to voluntarily enter an organization that does random pee tests while he's still using.

                  I'd say that was a long-term problem.
                  "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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                  • Celeste Chalfonte
                    apostate
                    • Saturday, October 5, 2013
                    • 27897

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Gingersnap View Post
                    Well, he had to get a drug waiver to get into the Navy Reserve to begin with which means he's got some kind of drug charge in his past. So, he had enough of a problem to get a drug charge when he was younger and he's still dumb enough at 40+ to voluntarily enter an organization that does random pee tests while he's still using.

                    I'd say that was a long-term problem.
                    Being dumb enough to get caught is perhaps a problem, although obviously not as big a problem as it would be if he were actually dependent on the income from the job. When i think of a "drug problem," I think of addiction. Using recreational drugs is not per se a problem unless some other circumstance makes it one. A matter of malum prohibitum rather than malum in se.
                    "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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                    • Frostbit
                      But only once
                      • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                      • 22330

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
                      Being dumb enough to get caught is perhaps a problem, although obviously not as big a problem as it would be if he were actually dependent on the income from the job. When i think of a "drug problem," I think of addiction. Using recreational drugs is not per se a problem unless some other circumstance makes it one. A matter of malum prohibitum rather than malum in se.
                      "This offer void in 35 34 33 32 31 26 20 states."

                      Did you update this for Alaska as well?
                      If it pays, it stays

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                      • Gingersnap
                        Resident stylistic consultant
                        • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                        • 24058

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
                        Being dumb enough to get caught is perhaps a problem, although obviously not as big a problem as it would be if he were actually dependent on the income from the job. When i think of a "drug problem," I think of addiction. Using recreational drugs is not per se a problem unless some other circumstance makes it one. A matter of malum prohibitum rather than malum in se.
                        If your drug use screws up your career plans, it's a problem. Careers aren't just money-making efforts.
                        "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."

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                        • scott
                          Go-to Guru
                          • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                          • 15799

                          #13
                          Biden's son got a commission in the Navy at 42? When has this happened since WWII?

                          And people accuse Bush of getting special treatment.
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                          • Adam
                            The way to a woman's heart is through her taste buds.
                            • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by scott View Post
                            Biden's son got a commission in the Navy at 42? When has this happened since WWII?

                            And people accuse Bush of getting special treatment.
                            Is there a difference between a commission in the Navy itself vs. in the reserves?
                            It's been ten years since that lonely day I left you
                            In the morning rain, smoking gun in hand
                            Ten lonely years but how my heart, it still remembers
                            Pray for me, momma, I'm a gypsy now

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                            • scott
                              Go-to Guru
                              • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                              • 15799

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Adam View Post
                              Is there a difference between a commission in the Navy itself vs. in the reserves?
                              Yes. Officers with reserve commissions are activated all the time, though. Biden's other son is a Major in the Army National Guard (JAG).
                              "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                              -John Locke

                              "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                              -Newman

                              "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
                              -Newman

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