Saida Grundy, Boston U. professor, accused of taunting white rape victim: ‘Go cry ...

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Saida Grundy, Boston U. professor, accused of taunting white rape victim: ‘Go cry somewhere’

By Jessica Chasmar - The Washington Times - Tuesday, May 19, 2015

Boston University has reportedly been alerted of a new online exchange in which controversial professor Saida Grundy allegedly taunted a white rape victim and angrily told her to “go cry somewhere.”

Ms. Grundy, a newly hired black sociology professor who recently apologized for tweeting that white males are a “problem population,” is now accused of mercilessly mocking Meghan Chamberlin in a Facebook thread on Feb. 25, Fox News reported.

The woman who wrote, “my name is *Sai*, but you can call me Dr. Grundy,” posted the comments after Ms. Chamberlin took issue with an article on racism and sexism by The Grio that the Facebook thread had linked to, Fox News reported.

“I LITERALLY cry and lose sleep over this,” Ms. Chamberlin wrote, adding she had been raped as a child, Fox reported. “What this article did was tell me that I’m not aloud [sic] to ask for help… Because I am a WHITE woman… So when I read this article… you do understand what that does to me, right? It kills me…”

“‘I literally cry’…. While we literally die,” replied the woman identified as Sai Grundy, using the same profile photo the Boston University professor used on tweets she acknowledged last week, Fox News reported.

“[T]ry this article. A white woman explaining this issue to other white women… who manages NOT to cry while doing it!” Ms. Grundy wrote.

Ms. Chamberlin responded: “No really. I got it. You can take your claws out, thanks.”

To which Ms. Grundy exploded:

“THIS IS THE [expletive] I AM TALKING ABOUT. WHY DO YOU GET TO PLAY THE VICTIM EVERY TIME PEOPLE OF COLOR AND OUR ALLIES WANT TO POINT OUT RACISM. my CLAWS?? Do you see how you just took an issue that WASNT about you, MADE it about you, and NOW want to play the victim when I take the time to explain to you some [expletive] that is literally $82,000 below my pay grade? And then you promote your #whitegirltears like that’s some badge you get to wear… YOU BENEFIT FROM RACISM. WE’RE EXPLAINING THAT TO YOU and you’re vilifying my act of intellectual altruism by saying i stuck my “claws” into you?”

Ms. Chamberlin responded: “I am choosing to ‘exit’ this conversation. You don’t know me. I don’t know you. It’s really as simple as that.”

Ms. Grundy responded: “YOU DONT HAVE TO KNOW ME. what you SHOULD know is that you don’t know more about this issue than marginalized women. And instead of entering this conversation with an iota of humility about that, you have made it a celebration of your false sense of victimization. now go cry somewhere. since that’s what you do.”

The exchange was taken down from Frank William Miller Junior’s Facebook page late Wednesday after Fox News asked him what he thought of the comments.

Ms. Grundy did not return an email or a phone call from Fox News about her alleged posts and by Thursday morning, her Facebook page was disabled.

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[Adam]

It just amazes me how many universities just blindly welcome these fools into their midst.

[Billy Jingo]

Git a rope ...

[scott]

Well, that's helpful.

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I find it so ironic that some (and definitely a vocal SOME) minorities in prestigious positions assume victimhood, assert their own right to claim victimhood, all while telling others that they don't understand "the struggle." I get that racism exists, I get that white privilege is real, and I get that an entire community is marginalized due to racism. But if your father was a physician and your grandfather was an attorney, you've had no such "struggle." Maybe they did when they couldn't get into a country club or a venture capital arrangement, but that hasn't affected YOU.

It's so funny that privileged minorities think that they aren't more privileged because white people somehow kept them down and then they are angry at people who aren't as privileged as they are for doing it to them.


The Ivy League is becoming infested with this crop of hucksters and I'll have no part of it. Somehow my kids will manage, what with all the actual education in real skills and concepts they are going to get elsewhere.

[Celeste Chalfonte]

I find it so ironic that some (and definitely a vocal SOME) minorities in prestigious positions assume victimhood, assert their own right to claim victimhood, all while telling others that they don't understand "the struggle." I get that racism exists, I get that white privilege is real, and I get that an entire community is marginalized due to racism. But if your father was a physician and your grandfather was an attorney, you've had no such "struggle." Maybe they did when they couldn't get into a country club or a venture capital arrangement, but that hasn't affected YOU.

It's so funny that privileged minorities think that they aren't more privileged because white people somehow kept them down and then they are angry at people who aren't as privileged as they are for doing it to them.


The Ivy League is becoming infested with this crop of hucksters and I'll have no part of it. Somehow my kids will manage, what with all the actual education in real skills and concepts they are going to get elsewhere.

Great little piece in Yahoo News today about a kid who was accepted, if not recruited to all 8 Ivies but chose to go to University of Alabama because he got a full ride there and will get a good education with no student loan debt and without bankrupting his parents. I liked it because I made a similar choice almost 45 years ago. Got accepted to Georgetown, AU and UC (where out of state tuition was exhorbitant), but ultimately decided to go to U of MD and never regretted it...especially after going to law school with and/or encountering in practice some of the graduates of those fine institutions. Never saw that they were any better educated than I, and some must have been legacies, because the proportion of people who were dumber than a crescent wrench was as least as high there as at UM.

[scott]

Great little piece in Yahoo News today about a kid who was accepted, if not recruited to all 8 Ivies but chose to go to University of Alabama because he got a full ride there and will get a good education with no student loan debt and without bankrupting his parents. I liked it because I made a similar choice almost 45 years ago. Got accepted to Georgetown, AU and UC (where out of state tuition was exhorbitant), but ultimately decided to go to U of MD and never regretted it...especially after going to law school with and/or encountering in practice some of the graduates of those fine institutions. Never saw that they were any better educated than I, and some must have been legacies, because the proportion of people who were dumber than a crescent wrench was as least as high there as at UM.

I read that story and I thought the same thing, he made a wise choice. Without his family being part of the blue blood network his ivy league education would not be all that valuable anyway.

[Celeste Chalfonte]

I read that story and I thought the same thing, he made a wise choice. Without his family being part of the blue blood network his ivy league education would not be all that valuable anyway.

Perhaps it's possible that there is some area of education that they do better than other schools, but I can't begin to tell you what it is. Now, there ARE things I could have gotten at Georgetown or AU that I couldn't get at University of MD, but in that time, they wouldn't have done me any good. My interest was the Foreign Service, and either school would have been a leg up in that area...for a male with my skills. In 1975, I could have graduated at the top of my class from GU or AU and the State Dept would still have offered me a job typing, just as they did with my UM degree. I trust that has changed. But, unlike the Ivies, GU and AU do give merit scholarships, so there are options. For me, with 2 more college-bound siblings coming along, the scholarships they offered me weren't enough to counter the higher tuition, and the state university degree hasn't ever held me back that I can recall.

[scott]

Perhaps it's possible that there is some area of education that they do better than other schools, but I can't begin to tell you what it is. Now, there ARE things I could have gotten at Georgetown or AU that I couldn't get at University of MD, but in that time, they wouldn't have done me any good. My interest was the Foreign Service, and either school would have been a leg up in that area...for a male with my skills. In 1975, I could have graduated at the top of my class from GU or AU and the State Dept would still have offered me a job typing, just as they did with my UM degree. I trust that has changed. But, unlike the Ivies, GU and AU do give merit scholarships, so there are options. For me, with 2 more college-bound siblings coming along, the scholarships they offered me weren't enough to counter the higher tuition, and the state university degree hasn't ever held me back that I can recall.

I've found that even the pipeline graduates from Georgetown and AU weren't in the Foreign Service because of their pedigrees, it was because of their other connections. It's sorta like Florida Blue Key, UF Law, and the state government. The connections and networks that got them into FBK and UF Law are what got them into influential positions in Tallahassee. Plenty of FBK members who also went to UF Law are locked out.

John Morgan is one of the more famous examples, he bought his way into influence. 30 years ago he was the laughingstock of the legal world - and for good reason.

[Adam]

He's an interesting young man, based upon what I'm reading. And good for him: I hope he does the same thing for medical school, assuming he continues to pursue that path.

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I read that story and I thought the same thing, he made a wise choice. Without his family being part of the blue blood network his ivy league education would not be all that valuable anyway.

This has always baffled me. I understand that there are a few law firms, brokerage houses, banks, or whatever that are mightily impressed by Ivy League credentials but only if the holder is also the relation or family friend of current power-brokers in the company/agency.

If you are Nevaeh Jones from Billings, Montana your shiny new Ivy League undergrad degree doesn't have the same currency in those places as it would if you were a daughter of a legacy or a family friend. Outside of those places, it really isn't as appealing to employers as it might seem.

I've certainly worked with Ivy League grads but they didn't make better money than I did or get better promotions or opportunities. Even MIT and Cal Tech people were on par with me after about 4 or 5 years. At the 10 year mark - nobody cares about your undergrad and your grad school glitter is dimming every minute because virtually everything you learned in higher ed is now obsolete.

Your penetrating analysis of Faulkner's misogynistic themes may still be current but if your job doesn't require grading undergrad papers, who cares?

[Celeste Chalfonte]

This has always baffled me. I understand that there are a few law firms, brokerage houses, banks, or whatever that are mightily impressed by Ivy League credentials but only if the holder is also the relation or family friend of current power-brokers in the company/agency.

If you are Nevaeh Jones from Billings, Montana your shiny new Ivy League undergrad degree doesn't have the same currency in those places as it would if you were a daughter of a legacy or a family friend. Outside of those places, it really isn't as appealing to employers as it might seem.

I've certainly worked with Ivy League grads but they didn't make better money than I did or get better promotions or opportunities. Even MIT and Cal Tech people were on par with me after about 4 or 5 years. At the 10 year mark - nobody cares about your undergrad and your grad school glitter is dimming every minute because virtually everything you learned in higher ed is now obsolete. 1

Your penetrating analysis of Faulkner's misogynistic themes may still be current but if your job doesn't require grading undergrad papers, who cares? 2

1. Even more so in law - where hardly anything you learn in law school has any practical application once you pass the bar.

2. SO true. And if your job DOES require grading undergraduate papers, you're probably going to recycle that analysis endlessly to meet the dreaded "publish or perish" tenure requirement. I know my ex did. Wrote the same damned paper over and over, then made it into a book, then wrote another book saying the same thing, but quoting all the people who agreed with her first book.

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1. Even more so in law - where hardly anything you learn in law school has any practical application once you pass the bar.

2. SO true. And if your job DOES require grading undergraduate papers, you're probably going to recycle that analysis endlessly to meet the dreaded "publish or perish" tenure requirement. I know my ex did. Wrote the same damned paper over and over, then made it into a book, then wrote another book saying the same thing, but quoting all the people who agreed with her first book.

In my field and I think even in the soft sciences, the truism is that by your senior year, two years of upper courses are already dated badly. When I first got into my professional life, I was kinda astonished at how irrelevant a lot of stuff already was. I really learned on the job.

This isn't to say that chemistry underwent some big revolution or that the math became completely different or anything but the technology I used as a working person had no relationship to the tech I used as a student. Beyond that, some pretty basic ideas about how to do things changed radically and some about what to do with those things. The "what" changed the game entirely between my undergrad and my professional launch.

This would not be as evident for history or English major but my peers in those fields also had a lot of cognitive dissonance within 10 years or so.

It's really a tragic deal for psych/soc people who stay in the field. Everything they learned is now passé (and was within 5 years) and they've gone through 3 different evolutions of "now we've got it".

One of my besties is a Classics major. She got her degree in 1995. You would not think that the views on Marcus Aurelius or Ovid or Roman state religion or Greek city state function would be changing all that much after 2,500 years. You would be wrong.

Whether it's real or an academic fad - your college whatever is simply not as a currently useful as you might think. Basically, you're paying for the "ticket", not the knowledge.