It’s Not Us, It’s You: How Elites Rationalize This Year’s Voter Rebellion

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  • Gingersnap
    Resident stylistic consultant
    • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
    • 24058

    #1

    It’s Not Us, It’s You: How Elites Rationalize This Year’s Voter Rebellion

    It’s Not Us, It’s You: How Elites Rationalize This Year’s Voter Rebellion
    August 31, 2016 by Chris Buskirk

    It’s not us, it’s you. That’s the line being floated by Conservatism, Inc. to explain this year’s voter rebellion. And it’s not just voters that have run afoul of the conservative crossing guards, it’s their enablers on talk radio and at Fox News. Got that? This year it’s not the liberal media that’s to blame—it’s the conservative media. You might want to buy a program because the enemies list changes quickly.

    Conor Friedersdorf at the The Atlantic, quoting the editor of RedState, claims it’s Rush Limbaugh’s fault. National Review says it’s Fox News. But leave it to Bret Stephens in the Wall Street Journal to defend the punditocracy from the slings and arrows of the popular uprising against party leaders and the destructive policies they have pursued. Stephens claims that Trump voters (at least 80 percent of the Republican Party by most polls) see themselves as “America’s latest victim class” while casually equating Donald Trump with Vladimir Putin and Turkey’s equally ruthless strongman Recep Erdogan.

    Apparently, if you object to the alienation of voters, to the stretching to the breaking point of the link between the sovereign citizen and the government—between rulers and ruled—then you are self-pitying milksop, a loser in the meritocratic war for money and status who has brought this upon himself.

    Calling a supermajority of Republican voters the nation’s newest victim class is pretty rich coming from Bret Stephens who is on the record wishing that Donald Trump would “be so decisvely rebuked that the Republican Party and Republican voters will forever learn their lesson…” Voters have already learned some hard lessons—that’s why they rejected every conventional candidate and nominated Donald Trump with 5 million more votes than any other Republican nominee in history on a platform of border control, common sense trade deals that put the interests of American citizens ahead of Wall Street, and an American nationalism that believes this country is at its best when citizens are served by government not the other way around.

    Still, these critiques of Trump voters, which are arrogant when they’re not merely condescending, offer a good insight into the disconnect between voters and elites. These are not people looking for pity or scapegoats onto which to load their sins. But confused by Trump’s rapid rise and enduring appeal, that’s how pundits, pols, and the consultant community have chosen to understand it. To their minds Trump can only be understood as a base appeal to self-pity and “identity politics”—the term conservative writers use when they want to call Republican voters racists without actually saying it.

    But it’s simpler than that, in fact, this is Occam’s Razor at it’s simplest. Trump voters are ordinary Americans, motivated by a core set of beliefs about the country that used to be a given, especially on the Right. It isn’t Republican voters who have changed, it is Republican leaders.
    Much more - read the whole thing.

    Amgreatness
    "Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."
  • Billy Jingo
    I shave with Occam's Razor
    • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
    • 18663

    #2
    A rising tide, we were assured, would lift all boats.

    Assured by whom?
    “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

    ~ Omar El Akkad
    ​

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    • scott
      Go-to Guru
      • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
      • 15799

      #3
      Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
      A rising tide, we were assured, would lift all boats.

      Assured by whom?
      We can now say with confidence that our peacetime economic expansion is the longest in history. And it is different than most past expansions. This time, the expansion is inclusive, not exclusive. This time, our prosperity belongs to the many, not merely to the few. This time, a rising tide truly does lift all boats.

      President Bill Clinton
      January 8, 1999
      "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
      -John Locke

      "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
      -Newman

      "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
      -Newman

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      • scott
        Go-to Guru
        • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
        • 15799

        #4
        Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
        A rising tide, we were assured, would lift all boats.

        Assured by whom?
        JFK

        The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is an independent, nonpartisan member organization, think tank, and publisher.
        "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
        -John Locke

        "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
        -Newman

        "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
        -Newman

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        • Djharkavy
          Senior Member
          • Saturday, October 31, 2015
          • 4286

          #5
          Not to get involved, but he was saying that this one time it worked, implying that it usually doesn't.

          Sent from my phone, using Tapatalk.
          All mistakes are caused by the phone.
          That's my story and I'm sticking to it...

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          • scott
            Go-to Guru
            • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
            • 15799

            #6
            Originally posted by Djharkavy View Post
            Not to get involved, but he was saying that this one time it worked, implying that it usually doesn't.

            Sent from my phone, using Tapatalk.
            All mistakes are caused by the phone.
            That's my story and I'm sticking to it...
            Of course that's how you take it. The rest of us see that Clinton took credit for the sun not exploding.
            "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
            -John Locke

            "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
            -Newman

            "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
            -Newman

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            • Djharkavy
              Senior Member
              • Saturday, October 31, 2015
              • 4286

              #7
              Originally posted by scott View Post
              Of course that's how you take it. The rest of us see that Clinton took credit for the sun not exploding.
              That would be the meaning of the repeated words "this time."

              I'm not arguing whether it works or not.
              Just whether he was saying that it generally works.

              Sent from my phone, using Tapatalk.
              All mistakes are caused by the phone.
              That's my story and I'm sticking to it...

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              • Lady Marva
                Senior Member
                • Wednesday, June 17, 2015
                • 13321

                #8
                Still, these critiques of Trump voters, which are arrogant when they’re not merely condescending, offer a good insight into the disconnect between voters and elites. These are not people looking for pity or scapegoats onto which to load their sins. But confused by Trump’s rapid rise and enduring appeal, that’s how pundits, pols, and the consultant community have chosen to understand it. To their minds Trump can only be understood as a base appeal to self-pity and “identity politics”—the term conservative writers use when they want to call Republican voters racists without actually saying it.
                To paraphrase something from another thread, these are people who stick to each other in their New York salons and wouldn't be caught dead in a boat rescuing people in flooded Baton Rouge.
                Course elites in New York don't know where Louisiana is. No wonder they can't understand it.

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                • Billy Jingo
                  I shave with Occam's Razor
                  • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                  • 18663

                  #9
                  It almost went full on Occupy but had to throw in the "welfare queen" canard to keep his street cred.

                  Too bad.

                  Also, too bad Trump is ruining it as far as fighting the status quo. His run will entrench the Ruling Class for a long time.
                  “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

                  ~ Omar El Akkad
                  ​

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                  • scott
                    Go-to Guru
                    • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
                    • 15799

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                    It almost went full on Occupy but had to throw in the "welfare queen" canard to keep his street cred.

                    Too bad.

                    Also, too bad Trump is ruining it as far as fighting the status quo. His run will entrench the Ruling Class for a long time.
                    Which is why they are largely supporting your lady huh?
                    "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
                    -John Locke

                    "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
                    -Newman

                    "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
                    -Newman

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                    • phillygirl
                      Not superior, just kind
                      • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                      • 19840

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                      It almost went full on Occupy but had to throw in the "welfare queen" canard to keep his street cred.

                      Too bad.

                      Also, too bad Trump is ruining it as far as fighting the status quo. His run will entrench the Ruling Class for a long time.
                      Who, in your mind, could have stopped the ruling class?
                      Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
                      Robert Southwell, S.J.

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                      • Billy Jingo
                        I shave with Occam's Razor
                        • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                        • 18663

                        #12
                        Originally posted by phillygirl View Post
                        Who, in your mind, could have stopped the ruling class?
                        It is incremental at best until you have a full Monty revolutionary. And even then, they are just articulating a popular rage.

                        Rand Paul, I guess. But he is an egghead utopian wedded to an ideology so probably not. I don't know. None, really. Political messiahs are rare, I'm afraid. And in their absence, when they are desperately needed, charlatans emerge and fail spectacularly and we all get just that much more cynical.
                        “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

                        ~ Omar El Akkad
                        ​

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                        • phillygirl
                          Not superior, just kind
                          • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                          • 19840

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
                          It is incremental at best until you have a full Monty revolutionary. And even then, they are just articulating a popular rage.

                          Rand Paul, I guess. But he is an egghead utopian wedded to an ideology so probably not. I don't know. None, really. Political messiahs are rare, I'm afraid. And in their absence, when they are desperately needed, charlatans emerge and fail spectacularly and we all get just that much more cynical.
                          And yet you blame Trump's run for entrenching the ruling class. It seems to me the ruling class has been entrenched. Personally, I blame Carter for that.
                          Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
                          Robert Southwell, S.J.

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                          • Celeste Chalfonte
                            apostate
                            • Saturday, October 5, 2013
                            • 27897

                            #14
                            Originally posted by phillygirl View Post
                            And yet you blame Trump's run for entrenching the ruling class. It seems to me the ruling class has been entrenched. Personally, I blame Carter for that.
                            I can't wait. Please go on.
                            "Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)

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                            • phillygirl
                              Not superior, just kind
                              • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                              • 19840

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
                              I can't wait. Please go on.
                              He was an outsider. And he was the worst president in my lifetime. No way people are going to take a chance on something like that again. Billy Beer. Iran. Come on. You knew this was my answer!
                              Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
                              Robert Southwell, S.J.

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