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May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.Tags: None
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Well, I thought I'd state the obvious first.Originally posted by Gingersnap View PostVery bold, I'll watch with amusement.
May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.
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Why not? Are you a Bern supporter or do I need a different thread for that?Originally posted by Billy Jingo View PostNo.
May we raise children who love the unloved things - the dandelion, the worm, the spiderlings.
Children who sense the rose needs the thorn and run into rainswept days the same way they turn towards the sun...
And when they're grown and someone has to speak for those who have no voice,
may they draw upon that wilder bond, those days of tending tender things and be the one.
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Lol.Originally posted by Michele View PostWhy not? Are you a Bern supporter or do I need a different thread for that?
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Unless a dark horse candidate appears, I may actually sit this one out.
If Sanders got the nod, I would vote for him, because his own party would put the brakes on anything too other-worldly. I'm not at all confident they could control Clinton."Since the historic ruling, the Lovings have become icons for equality. Mildred released a statement on the 40th anniversary of the ruling in 2007: 'I am proud that Richard’s and my name is on a court case that can help reinforce the love, the commitment, the fairness, and the family that so many people, Black or white, young or old, gay or straight, seek in life. I support the freedom to marry for all. That’s what Loving, and loving, are all about.'." - Mildred Loving (Loving v. Virginia)
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As near as I can tell, no one has said who they are voting for.Originally posted by Michele View PostWhy not? Are you a Bern supporter or do I need a different thread for that?
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You haven't seen them all yet? I thought they were all on t.v.Originally posted by Djharkavy View PostI won't know until I see all the candidates.
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What party? The Communists?Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View PostUnless a dark horse candidate appears, I may actually sit this one out.
If Sanders got the nod, I would vote for him, because his own party would put the brakes on anything too other-worldly. I'm not at all confident they could control Clinton.
He's no more a Democratic poster child than Santorum is a Republican one."Alexa, slaughter the fatted calf."
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True, but the Democrats are running him, so if he gets elected, that's the party that will have some control over him.Originally posted by Gingersnap View PostWhat party? The Communists?
He's no more a Democratic poster child than Santorum is a Republican one.
A friend with a lot of experience in government (a lot!) has talked to me about the need for either a Sanders or Trump win. Either way, one of those two would dismantle the current system (I think she said blow it up!) and that's about the best we can hope for. Anyone else will continue the same old same old with the same incompetents running around. I can't say I disagree with her assessment.Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
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I confess that I like the idea of a true outsider being in charge even if it's Sanders but I just don't see Sanders doing anything substantial that is good. He's honest, but he's also a socialist and the incremental walk to socialism is a large part of what has gotten us into this mess in the first place.Originally posted by phillygirl View PostTrue, but the Democrats are running him, so if he gets elected, that's the party that will have some control over him.
A friend with a lot of experience in government (a lot!) has talked to me about the need for either a Sanders or Trump win. Either way, one of those two would dismantle the current system (I think she said blow it up!) and that's about the best we can hope for. Anyone else will continue the same old same old with the same incompetents running around. I can't say I disagree with her assessment.
We used to recover from recessions and now we don't. Now it's only a small slice that happens to be lucky (internet) or connected (GM, UAW, defense, and financial speculators) that recover from recessions. The 2002-2007 Bush years were good but they weren't great. The economy was booming but it was very narrowly realized except in terms of generally doing okay. 1993-2000 was a true boom, but again only truly realized by people lucky enough to be in the right jobs. Overall the economy did well and it was a rising tide and lifted almost all boats. Better, but nothing like the post WWII era.
We've crept into a cycle of command economy policies on both sides of the aisle and instead of trying to foster an environment for growth the Beltway wonks are micromanaging things to make the appearance of success without any sight to broader well-being.
I don't see Bernie doing anything to abate that, so he's worse than Hillary."Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
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No disrespect to your friend but she is an optimist. Empires that last longer change the capital. Most corruption has its origin in sustained proximity.Originally posted by phillygirl View PostTrue, but the Democrats are running him, so if he gets elected, that's the party that will have some control over him.
A friend with a lot of experience in government (a lot!) has talked to me about the need for either a Sanders or Trump win. Either way, one of those two would dismantle the current system (I think she said blow it up!) and that's about the best we can hope for. Anyone else will continue the same old same old with the same incompetents running around. I can't say I disagree with her assessment.
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