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  • scott
    Go-to Guru
    • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
    • 15799

    #31
    Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
    Not watching tonight (I just got home from work and I have a nasty cold. I can't take being buried horseshit as well.) But from what I've read, you're right about Webb. And I don't know. Massachusetts and metropolitan California are the whole Democratic party.I was in a CCW class last week with a whole bunch of suburban CA Democrats who can't stand DiFi and Kamala Harris. They looked like potential Webb voters to me.
    I'm pretty far from being a Democrat and I'm a potential Jim Webb voter.
    "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
    -John Locke

    "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
    -Newman

    "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
    -Newman

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    • Billy Jingo
      I shave with Occam's Razor
      • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
      • 18663

      #32
      Originally posted by scott View Post
      That comment indicates what most Democrats deny, that they have moved very far to the left. Webb has never been a Republican. He endorsed Bob Kerrey in 1992, campaigned for Robb in 1994, and defeated George Allen in 2006.
      You have it backward. It shows the center resides in the Democratic Party.

      Why am I talking to you about this as if you are anything but a nihilist? You just hate government and human progress. Burn it all down, right? Burn it all.
      “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

      ~ Omar El Akkad
      ​

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      • william the wierd
        Senior Member
        • Thursday, October 1, 2015
        • 1546

        #33
        Originally posted by Celeste Chalfonte View Post
        Not watching tonight (I just got home from work and I have a nasty cold. I can't take being buried horseshit as well.) But from what I've read, you're right about Webb. And I don't know. Massachusetts and metropolitan California are the whole Democratic party.I was in a CCW class last week with a whole bunch of suburban CA Democrats who can't stand DiFi and Kamala Harris. They looked like potential Webb voters to me.
        I must agree. It is too soon to tell if the D primary season will weaken the blue wall but it will definitely increase the Red Edge at least marginally. A net R pick-up is highly unlikely even with the Ds doing a rerun of the McGovern campaign only winning this time but it is a possible outcome. The opposition research ads almost write themselves if this goes on as anything but mop-up after March 31st.

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        • Billy Jingo
          I shave with Occam's Razor
          • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
          • 18663

          #34
          Originally posted by william the wierd View Post
          I must agree. It is too soon to tell if the D primary season will weaken the blue wall but it will definitely increase the Red Edge at least marginally. A net R pick-up is highly unlikely even with the Ds doing a rerun of the McGovern campaign only winning this time but it is a possible outcome. The opposition research ads almost write themselves if this goes on as anything but mop-up after March 31st.
          Okay magic 8 ball; which states? I'll give you Florida, that was close. What else. I want to see the electoral math. Show your work.
          “One day, when it's safe, when there's no personal downside to calling a thing what it is, when it's too late to hold anyone accountable, everyone will have always been against this.”

          ~ Omar El Akkad
          ​

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          • william the wierd
            Senior Member
            • Thursday, October 1, 2015
            • 1546

            #35
            Originally posted by Newman View Post
            I completely agree.

            The search is always on for gaffs and daggers. I think her "No." was sort of a Donald Trump moment to the Democratic faithful. I heard no gaffs, but for her Kerryesque "I didn't make up my mind about Keystone until I made up my mind...." (Or is that the ghost of Yogi Berra speaking?)

            A show like this is about style and impressions. She was unflapped. They all rallied about dismissing concerns about scandal.

            Bernie may have excited his base, but Hillary asserted her dominance.
            True but that was a given. Except on the left coast and the Washington Boston echo chamber this debate was a disaster for the Democratic party, how big is yet to be seen.

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            • scott
              Go-to Guru
              • Tuesday, October 1, 2013
              • 15799

              #36
              Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
              You have it backward. It shows the center resides in the Democratic Party.
              Obviously it doesn't, you just called him a Republican.

              Originally posted by Billy Jingo View Post
              Why am I talking to you about this as if you are anything but a nihilist? You just hate government and human progress. Burn it all down, right? Burn it all.
              You've been saying that for almost 10 years and I've never said that. I've articulated my position on strong government oversight instead of government micromanagement. I've articulated my position on nationalizing certain key sectors of our economy instead of entire industries. I've articulated my position on a strong government funded safety net that is efficient and effective instead of being bloated and furthering the cycle of dependency.

              You don't read well. You put letters together and then make up your own definitions of the words if they are spoken by someone you don't like.
              "Faith is nothing but a firm assent of the mind : which, if it be regulated, as is our duty, cannot be afforded to anything but upon good reason, and so cannot be opposite to it."
              -John Locke

              "It's all been melded together into one giant, authoritarian, leftist scream."
              -Newman

              "Grievance groups are playing King of the Hill."
              -Newman

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              • william the wierd
                Senior Member
                • Thursday, October 1, 2015
                • 1546

                #37
                Originally posted by scott View Post
                Obviously it doesn't, you just called him a Republican.



                You've been saying that for almost 10 years and I've never said that. I've articulated my position on strong government oversight instead of government micromanagement. I've articulated my position on nationalizing certain key sectors of our economy instead of entire industries. I've articulated my position on a strong government funded safety net that is efficient and effective instead of being bloated and furthering the cycle of dependency.

                You don't read well. You put letters together and then make up your own definitions of the words if they are spoken by someone you don't like.
                She is a democrat of the left coast where annual fires, floods and quakes are the rule not the exception and she thinks that is a smart move. And you expect what out of her?

                you may have noticed, but she has not, that my interest in politics is strictly limited to my own economic interests. She assumes too much. Having a D inaugeration year ending in 7 generates more revenue for me. So, I would like to see that but Hillary seems too incompetent to deliver on such a gimme.
                Last edited by william the wierd; Wednesday, October 14, 2015, 2:27 AM.

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                • phillygirl
                  Not superior, just kind
                  • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                  • 19840

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Michele View Post
                  Democrats want him off the stage but I think he would be a huge asset for the ticket.
                  He's this year's Bob Casey.
                  Not where I breathe, but where I love, I live...
                  Robert Southwell, S.J.

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                  • Lady Marva
                    Senior Member
                    • Wednesday, June 17, 2015
                    • 13321

                    #39
                    Originally posted by scott View Post
                    I'm pretty far from being a Democrat and I'm a potential Jim Webb voter.
                    Dunno 'bout Jim Webb. He didn't do much for the state of Virginia when he was a senator. He only lasted one term.

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                    • JB
                      Don't believe the hype
                      • Wednesday, October 2, 2013
                      • 4408

                      #40
                      I didn't watch. Nothing but a bunch of old white people.
                      Once you vote yourselves into Communism, you must shoot your way out.

                      Science that cannot be questioned is propaganda.

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                      • william the wierd
                        Senior Member
                        • Thursday, October 1, 2015
                        • 1546

                        #41
                        Originally posted by JB View Post
                        I didn't watch. Nothing but a bunch of old white people.
                        Yeah its strange how the Rs have the old black person and the South Asian.

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                        • Newman
                          Behind the Iron Curtain
                          • Friday, November 1, 2013
                          • 25814

                          #42
                          Originally posted by JB View Post
                          I didn't watch. Nothing but a bunch of old white people.
                          It used to be just a bunch of old white men, so I guess we're making progress of a sort.
                          • "I'm a hell of a lot smarter than most of you guys." — Joe Biden, at Jesse Jackson's funeral, March 2026.​
                          • "That's all I do in my life. I make deals. I'm really good at it." — President Donald Trump, Oct. 13, 2025.
                          • “Inside every progressive is a totalitarian screaming to get out,” — David Horowitz.
                          • "We [Democrats] are all willing to work with anyone who is serious about doing the work of censoring the American people, and advancing progress."​ — Ayanna Pressley, explaining progressives.
                          • ​​"Florida is where Woke goes to die." — Ron DeSantis.
                          • "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." — Nancy Pelosi, explaining Lawfare.
                          • “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”​— Ben Franklin, who got it right.
                          • "The way I see it, there's always, c'mon, there's always money. It's there." — Elizabeth Warren, explaining socialism.
                          • "The interesting thing about the Green New Deal is it wasn't originally a climate thing at all.... We really think of it as a how-do-you-change-the-entire-economy thing." — Saikat Chakrabarti, then AOC's Chief of Staff.

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